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South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

roguenuke said:
There is no "defining" going on in reality. Legal marriage isn't changing its function at all. It is still used to make two people legal spouses with each other.

No, it doesn't legitimately affect the parent/child relationship unless people like you teach your children or other children that there is something wrong with kids who are raised by same sex parents. But if you are talking about the other children, too bad. They need to learn to accept that people are different, despite what their parents or their church/religion may be pushing them toward.
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What gives you the right to teach MY children anything. You're brainwashing children into believing what I would consider to be BS.

Like I said, your and others who want to ignore scripture opinions are based on irrational, thoughless emotion.
 
Cardinal said:
And this...boys and girls...is why we have a separation of church and state.
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So we can have homosexual marriage and other abominations?

There's no such animal in the Constitution.
 
WCH said:
One is race related while the other is sexual orientation. The only reason it's brought up is because there are religious persons who believe both are sinful. (and proponents need a leg to stand on)
I don't think interracial marriage is a sin.
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and in both cases you get mistreated because of things about yourself and partner you cant help

its good you don't thick interracial marriage is a sin

but both interracial couples and homosexual couples and their kids have gotten the same kind bull**** thrown at them
 
WCH said:
Oh now it's hate, intolerance and ignorance when before it was misinterpretation?

It's God's law which has been conveniently overlooked.
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you don't have a god to say that or a justification for it even if you did
 
blarg said:
but century's of philosophy and theology they cant be wrong becase...um....er

any way thinking differently is wrong if its relatively new becase....er

your just going along with what's popular you don't see the truth like I do :2bigcry:
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Or you're just blindly following your political agenda. (i. e. just like abortion, big government, etc)
 
WCH said:
What gives you the right to teach MY children anything. You're brainwashing children into believing what I would consider to be BS.

Like I said, your and others who want to ignore scripture opinions are based on irrational, thoughless emotion.
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You have every right to keep your children home and in isolation if you wish, but so long as they aren't, they are going to learn tolerance or get into trouble at school for teasing or making negative comments to or about other children, whether they are doing so because of their religious beliefs or just because they think it's fun.

If you wish to live your life by scripture and teach your children to live that way, you are completely free to do so, but stop trying to attempt to degrade others who don't believe in your book, in your religion. That is far removed from what this country is about and it simply makes people who do so look like uptight, fanatical Christian pricks. It is those who call others who try to degrade others over their beliefs, bully others into believing their way or they will "face consequences" that give Christians or any religious people really a bad name.
 
1750Texan said:
The state supreme court can not trump a federal court order. It is an invalid order.

It would be no different than a state's county judge ruling on a state's constitutional law. The county judge can not over-rule the state's supreme court ruling. The county judge is not over the state supreme court justice.

A state supreme court justice is not over the federal court judge.
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Yeah, this seems more like treason on the part of the s carolina court, an attempt to usurp the federal court authority. Those judges should be impeached
 
WCH said:
What gives you the right to teach MY children anything. You're brainwashing children into believing what I would consider to be BS.

Like I said, your and others who want to ignore scripture opinions are based on irrational, thoughless emotion.
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that would be being right

all you have is irrational thoughtless emotion and faith

again your a lot like religious racists
 
it's just me said:
Yes, we should change the world because blarg, in his infinite wisdom and vast life experience, says so. And I don't treat gay marriage as "wrong", I treat it as non-existent. But if you want to keep telling the emperor how nice his new clothes are, feel free. Run along with the rest of the lemmings, now, you are going to miss your cliff.

It doesn't take courage to go along with the crowd, it takes courage to think for yourself.
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If it's non existent then so are your posts. I mean what are you doing here arguing over something that doesn't exist? Clearly it does and that's what you take affront to

And what courage is that? Considerable anti gay prejudice has been the norm going back to augustine. It's hilarious to see that the moment this crowd becomes the minority (a whopping 2 years ago), they are suddenly courageous!
 
WCH said:
Oh now it's hate, intolerance and ignorance when before it was misinterpretation?

It's God's law which has been conveniently overlooked.
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Your God's law have no place in our legal system. Whether you like it or not, you live in a society that allows all religions to coexist, and none should have their laws/rules (that are purely religious rules) enshrined in our laws.
 
WCH said:
Or you're just blindly following your political agenda. (i. e. just like abortion, big government, etc)
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not exactly im looking at what people have to say about those things for and against theirs never been a shortage of either in my life time and thinking about it now that might be following my political agenda but I would not have that if I were blind

again people who cant defend their attacks against homosexuality turn to making up story's about others its still pathetic
 
it's just me said:
If you do, you're up against centuries of philosophical and theological thought.

Do you know that when I was your age homosexuality was in the DSM III as a personality disorder? This whole "gay rights" thing, perpetrated by a tiny minorty by design, is a new concept. It is more of a political movement than it is a moral or philosophical movement. Some of us see it for what it is. Some of us don't.

You want to present yourself as a critical thinker on these forums but going along with pop culture is not critical thinking, it's just front running.
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In the grand scheme of human history, equal rights for women, people of different races and nationalities, and people of different social and/or economic statuses are all new concepts, political movements.
 
blarg said:
when the reasoning holds up as in this case yes
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Your reasoning is from a faulty perspective. You assume Gay is OK because it doesn't personally harm YOU.

That makes it totally subjective from your POV whereas I do believe homosexuality is harmful having come to that opinion through much study, reflection and prayer.
 
WCH said:
One is race related while the other is sexual orientation. The only reason it's brought up is because there are religious persons who believe both are sinful. (and proponents need a leg to stand on)
I don't think interracial marriage is a sin.
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Actually, interracial marriage is only as race related as same sex marriage is sex/gender related. Either they are both based on attractions that people do not approve of or they are both based on the characteristics that attract some people to each other, that some people feel must only fit into specific characteristics that they approve of.

It doesn't matter if you don't think that interracial marriage is a sin. You do not personally get to determine what is sin or not for everyone.

Oh, and the same sex marriage supporters don't need "a leg to stand on", we're prevailing and have the majority support).
 
WCH said:
Your reasoning is from a faulty perspective. You assume Gay is OK because it doesn't personally harm YOU.

That makes it totally subjective from your POV whereas I do believe homosexuality is harmful have come to that opinion through much study, reflection and prayer.
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or any one else
 
WCH said:
1,)So we can have homosexual marriage and other abominations?

There's no such animal in the Constitution.
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1.) more meanignless opinion
2.) actually there is especially when you make it as vague as an animal lol
 
WCH said:
Your reasoning is from a faulty perspective. You assume Gay is OK because it doesn't personally harm YOU.

That makes it totally subjective from your POV whereas I do believe homosexuality is harmful having come to that opinion through much study, reflection and prayer.
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what did you study?

reflection and prayer is not exactly objective
 
blarg said:
and in both cases you get mistreated because of things about yourself and partner you cant help

its good you don't thick interracial marriage is a sin

but both interracial couples and homosexual couples and their kids have gotten the same kind bull**** thrown at them
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Not from my perspective. There is no where in the Bible that says interracial marriage is wrong.
 
WCH said:
Your reasoning is from a faulty perspective. You assume Gay is OK because it doesn't personally harm YOU.

That makes it totally subjective from your POV whereas I do believe homosexuality is harmful having come to that opinion through much study, reflection and prayer.
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And your reasoning is just as faulty because it isn't reasoning at all, but rather a statement of your personal beliefs with no facts, evidence, or anything else to back it up.
 
WCH said:
Or you're just blindly following your political agenda. (i. e. just like abortion, big government, etc)
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except for the fact that equal rights is smaller government and teh majority support it since its in our constitution and it applies to us all LMAO
 
WCH said:
Your reasoning is from a faulty perspective. You assume Gay is OK because it doesn't personally harm YOU.

That makes it totally subjective from your POV whereas I do believe homosexuality is harmful having come to that opinion through much study, reflection and prayer.
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all meamingless to laws and rights


do you have anythign to post that is accurate, fact based or actually matters to rights and law? lol
 
WCH said:
Not from my perspective. There is no where in the Bible that says interracial marriage is wrong.
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There is really nowhere in the Bible that says same sex marriage is wrong either. It is called interpretation of scripture, something that those opposed to both interracial marriage and same sex marriage have done to justify their personal negativity towards others.
 
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