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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    My prediction has come true. DP's resident homophobe has made a reappearance just as soon as some bigot court comes forth with a totally impotent ruling *against* SSM
    Hey he went four whole days without a sexist or homophobic comment. I think that is a new record.
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by The Immortal View Post
    It's inevitable that it will be taken up by the Supreme Court. When they rule it's an issue for State's rights over Federal Rights, like they did with the DOMA decision, the crying is going to be epic.
    LOL.....only a fool would believe that. The reality is....every federal circuit court has ruled in favor of marriage equality for the most part, public opinion has shifted in favor of marriage equality, the Supreme Court has clearly indicated that if they ruled today, they would rule for marriage equality. What part of that makes you optimistic that the bigots are going to prevail? LOL.....
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    I love how gay marriage supporters find this shocking despite the fact they never looked into the US and Sate Constitutions looking for their answer.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL.....only a fool would believe that. The reality is....every federal circuit court has ruled in favor of marriage equality for the most part, public opinion has shifted in favor of marriage equality, the Supreme Court has clearly indicated that if they ruled today, they would rule for marriage equality. What part of that makes you optimistic that the bigots are going to prevail? LOL.....
    Uhhh no actually they haven't. They've indicated exactly the opposite. They only referenced Loving v Virginia one time in the DOMA decision and that was to assert that while rights have to be given equally, the STATES have the right to decide what marriage consists of.

    Furthermore, did you forget that the Supreme Court is conservative? 4 out of the 5 conservative members voted against gay marriage in the DOMA decision. The only one who voted in favor with the liberals was Kennedy who is ADAMANTLY in favor of State rights over Federal rights. You have to remember, Kennedy was ruling on a federal law in DOMA that was superseding State law. DOMA basically said even if a state like California voted in favor of gay marriage, they couldn't have gay marriage because DOMA didn't allow it. Kennedy was ruling in favor of STATE rights over Federal rights.

    What YOU folks want the Supreme Court to do is rule that FEDERAL law should supersede State law and that if a State wants to define marriage as being between a male and a female, they should not have the right to do so and that a Federal law should supersede that State Law. And I hate to hurt your little feelings (actually I don't) but if you think Kennedy is going to rule in favor of Federal rights over State rights you're absolutely 100% delusional. And without Kennedy the Supreme Court will rule against gay marriage.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Well, pardon us if we'd like something a little more than the opinion of a handful of mere appellate judges before we throw out our own State Constitution. The Supremes need to put on their big girl panties and render a ruling one way or the other.
    An arbitrary line you are drawing out of spite. The circuit court has jurisdiction. If you'd like to completely overhaul our nation's court system, I'd suggest you write your congressman. Because what you, random internet poster, personally like is not relevant here. This is how our court system works. The Supreme Court did rule here. Their ruling is that there's no reason for them to take this case. It's already decided, and correctly. It's done. Get over it. Your state implemented a constitutional amendment that violates equal protection. You don't get to keep it.
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    If it degrades the definition of marriage, and it does I do. my left wing friend.
    Your marriage hasn't been redefined or degraded.
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by The Immortal View Post
    Uhhh no actually they haven't. They've indicated exactly the opposite. They only referenced Loving v Virginia one time in the DOMA decision and that was to assert that while rights have to be given equally, the STATES have the right to decide what marriage consists of.

    Furthermore, did you forget that the Supreme Court is conservative? 4 out of the 5 conservative members voted against gay marriage in the DOMA decision. The only one who voted in favor with the liberals was Kennedy who is ADAMANTLY in favor of State rights over Federal rights. You have to remember, Kennedy was ruling on a federal law in DOMA that was superseding State law. DOMA basically said even if a state like California voted in favor of gay marriage, they couldn't have gay marriage because DOMA didn't allow it. Kennedy was ruling in favor of STATE rights over Federal rights.

    What YOU folks want the Supreme Court to do is rule that FEDERAL law should supersede State law and that if a State wants to define marriage as being between a male and a female, they should not have the right to do so and that a Federal law should supersede that State Law. And I hate to hurt your little feelings (actually I don't) but if you think Kennedy is going to rule in favor of Federal rights over State rights you're absolutely 100% delusional. And without Kennedy the Supreme Court will rule against gay marriage.
    Wow.....you are so far out in a world of denial it is scary. You have no clue what you are talking about. Where did you get the information that you are spewing here? Obviously from some extreme right-wing source because it couldn't be further from the truth. Have you read the DOMA decision? You do know that Kennedy wrote the decision and clearly indicated how he would vote if gay marriage was put in front of him. Why do you think Scalia launched into his vitriolic dissent?
    You have no clue my friend....
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I love how gay marriage supporters find this shocking despite the fact they never looked into the US and Sate Constitutions looking for their answer.
    Actually not too many are finding this shocking and it actually FAVORS the SSM crowd.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Can God thank himself for murders and child molesters?


    Nice fail!
    since god created them, according to religious nuts, yeah thank him.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Wow.....you are so far out in a world of denial it is scary. You have no clue what you are talking about. Where did you get the information that you are spewing here? Obviously from some extreme right-wing source because it couldn't be further from the truth. Have you read the DOMA decision? You do know that Kennedy wrote the decision and clearly indicated how he would vote if gay marriage was put in front of him. Why do you think Scalia launched into his vitriolic dissent?
    You have no clue my friend....
    You're simply incorrect. As I said, this is the ONLY time Loving v Virginia is referenced.

    From the decision: State laws defining and regulating marriage, of course, must respect the constitutional rights of persons, see, e.g., Loving v. Virginia, 388 U.S. 1 (1967); but, subject to those guarantees, “regulation of domestic relations” is “an area that has long been regarded as a virtually exclusive province of the States.”

    In other words, if California wants to define marriage as being between a man and man they can. But that also means if SC wants to define marriage as being between a man and a woman they can. And the federal government should have no say in either.

    He ruled in favor of State's rights over Federal rights. You want Kennedy to rule in favor of Federal Rights over State's rights. One of Kennedy's BIGGEST positions is State rights over Federal rights. If you think he's going to vote for Federal Rights over State's rights... you're simply wrong. He's NEVER done so before. Ever. You think this is going to be the first time?

    Without Kennedy you have a better chance of getting ice water in hell than one of the other conservatives to vote in favor of gay marriage.

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