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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Bestiality, polygamy and pedophia on that list? How about ritualistic cannibalism?

    You know exactly where I'm going here.
    Actually, polygamy, where it isn't legally recognized but people merely living together is legal in most states and likely soon will be legal in all. Bestiality is legal in some states actually. Bestiality is not marrying an animal, but rather simply having sex with it. Certain forms of ritualistic cannibalism are actually legal, I believe.

    But what you failed to notice or simply ignored is the last sentence,

    It ends where the majority/state can show a legitimate (at least) state interest is furthered by restricting that behavior.

    That is the difference. Outlawing, limiting, or restricting those things you mentioned can be shown, when challenged to further a legitimate state interest. Restricting marriage to only opposite sex couples cannot.
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    I asked "how far will it go" and got no answer (including from you)

    50 years ago, no one expected Gays and Ssm to be normalized or legal.

    My point is as valid as it gets.

    50 years ago (1964) there were many people that didn't expect that coloreds could marry respectable white folk either would be normalized or leagal in all 50 states. Hell Alabama was one of the ones that passed a State Constitutional Amendment to make sure that didn't happen. The Loving decision was in 1967, that changed.



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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Bestiality, polygamy and pedophia on that list? How about ritualistic cannibalism?

    You know exactly where I'm going here.
    I don't

    if you need consent enamels and kids are off limits

    pretty sure killing some one to eat them is a violation of a persons rights if you want to much on a corpse of some one who agrees to that and they die of natural causes I guess health considerations are the biggest thing that might stand in your way

    but in any case we need a more compelling argument against something then yuck

    like the lady said


    ends where the majority/state can show a legitimate (at least) state interest is furthered by restricting that behavior

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Yes, the subject is SSM and you have said you want to force YOUR beliefs on others. That is authoritarian.
    Show me where I said I wanted to imposed my beliefs on others?
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    No that is a lie on both counts.
    'fraid not...

    City of Houston demands pastors turn over sermons | Fox News

    It's all part of a broader anti-gay discrimination initiative.
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    seems to be demanding for a recording of what they say rather then limiting what they say but maybe that is going to far
    Where do you think that will lead? It's part of a broader scheme.
    City of Houston demands pastors turn over sermons | Fox News
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Somehow I doubt this is true, but if it is, then that is wrong. I could care less what ministers say to their congregations.

    That being said, I highly doubt the law just covered what was being said against gays. I'm willing to bet it was much more general than that.

    Do you happen to have a link to the actual law that he was trying to pass (and not some right-wing or Christian blog/website that likely doesn't give all relevant information)? I would like to see the actual full text of the attempted legislation.
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    How far will it go if we allow you folks to dictate SSM? Will you then force people to pray in school, give money to the church, pray to your god, etc? I mean we have seen in the past how religious nuts like to control the lives of people in the name of God. See I can do slippery slopes as well.

    Again, playing idiotic slippery slope games is stupid. The issue at hand is this. Being homosexual is not illegal, a homosexual act is not illegal, and homosexuals raising children is not illegal. Therefore it is stupid to not allow SSM.
    They're trying to create something that didn't exist before and using a term that has offended many people.

    I suspect that is the point of wanting it in the first place but, I could be off-base.
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Actually, polygamy, where it isn't legally recognized but people merely living together is legal in most states and likely soon will be legal in all. Bestiality is legal in some states actually. Bestiality is not marrying an animal, but rather simply having sex with it. Certain forms of ritualistic cannibalism are actually legal, I believe.

    But what you failed to notice or simply ignored is the last sentence,

    It ends where the majority/state can show a legitimate (at least) state interest is furthered by restricting that behavior.

    That is the difference. Outlawing, limiting, or restricting those things you mentioned can be shown, when challenged to further a legitimate state interest. Restricting marriage to only opposite sex couples cannot.
    A single member of a court cannot (should not be able to) decide that for the people who voted against it. Let the states decide.
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    They're trying to create something that didn't exist before and using a term that has offended many people.

    I suspect that is the point of wanting it in the first place but, I could be off-base.
    You aren't off base.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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