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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    and in most states the law is one man and one woman.
    wrong as usual LMAO

    try again
    wasnt it you that said it will never be more than 10 states, then 12 etc?

    30 states have protected equal rights, so you are factually wrong
    facts win again

    and the reality is in ALL states equal rights is the law and there are a minority that are violating that law and the constitution.
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    show me in the 14th amendment where it says, in those words ssm must be legal....I won't hold my breath for your answer.
    thank you for proving you dont understand the constitution, it doesnt have to say SSM, It says "LAW" and the illegal bannings are a law and they violated the 14th as facts, laws, rights and court cases already prove. Once again your post is 100% wrong.

    by the failed logic in your post, rape can be made legal since "free from rape" is not in the constitution

    facts win again
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    I could show you the posts where your told the 14th amendment has to uphold = protection under the law for citizens
    Don't talk abut it do it.
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    The 14th Amendment is equal protection under law. SSM is an equal protection issue. Period, end of discussion.
    hears a good 1

    o and as a bonus

    No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.


    hears the rest of it if you care to point out the part that says the amendment must mention specific laws in order for itself to be applied

    Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

    Section 2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.

    Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

    Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

    Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.[1]

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    hears a good 1

    o and as a bonus

    No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.


    hears the rest of it if you care to point out the part that says the amendment must mention specific laws in order for itself to be applied

    Section 1. All personsborn or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

    Section 2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.

    Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

    Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

    Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.[1]
    yep, LAW
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    and in most states the law is one man and one woman.
    Which U.S. State Will Be Last to Strike Down Its Gay Marriage Ban? | E! Online

    Here is your list of states where it's currently legal to marry your same-sex partner:
    •Alaska
    •California
    •Colorado
    •Connecticut
    •Delaware
    •Hawaii
    •Idaho
    •Illinois
    •Indiana
    •Iowa
    •Maine
    •Maryland
    •Massachusetts
    •Minnesota
    •Nevada
    •New Hampshire
    •New Jersey
    •New Mexico
    •New York
    •North Carolina
    •Oklahoma
    •Oregon
    •Pennsylvania
    •Rhode Island
    •Utah
    •Vermont
    •Virginia
    •Washington
    •West Virginia
    •Wisconsin
    There are six states where the courts have ruled that the same-sex marriage ban is unconstitutional, but the rulings have pending appeals:
    •Arkansas
    •Florida
    •Kentucky
    •Louisiana
    •Michigan
    •Texas
    And here are the states (14 in all) where gay marriage is still illegal, although many of these states have had lawsuits filed challenging the ban, so at least they are making steps forward:
    •Alabama
    •Arizona
    •Georgia
    •Kansas
    •Mississippi
    •Missouri
    •Montana
    •Nebraska
    •North Dakota
    •Ohio
    •South Carolina
    •South Dakota
    •Tennessee
    •Wyoming
    One of these lists is longer than the other...
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
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    No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Stigmatization.
    This is a fallacy that has been shown to not exist through research and surveys.

    The Leftist mind washings have also driven a wedge between children and normal parents.
    The Rightwing mind washings attempt continue with reactionarianism are, fortunately dismissed by most people who have figured out that it makes no sense.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    It hurts him having to put up with the groupthink from your side of the room. It hurts him to express his beliefs only to be sued over it. It hurts the rest of us to have the thought police on the left constantly trying to shove their beliefs down everyone else's throats. Sound familiar?
    Yes. It sounds exactly what right wingers do on this issue. No one is saying he can't have his beliefs. But if he is going to present his beliefs as facts... he's going to get destroyed because they aren't. And if he is going to try to make his beliefs the law of the land... he's going to get destroyed because his beliefs are no longer held by the majority of folks. He can hold onto his beliefs... as can you. Just don't make the fallacious claim that they are fact and don't try to tell anyone else they have to believe them or they are "bad", "evil", or "sinful" either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Any more subjective than allowing Gays to redefine marriage? Or that Gay deserve special rights?

    This whole Gays rights issue is subjective. (based om emotion)

    Yes it does effect a parent/child relationship when public schools and the media make kids feel that they have to accept Gays or be called names. (stigmatized)
    No, this IS the same thing as racism. If a kid at school starts calling a black kid some racist name, he'll probably get picked on. Same thing happens if someone picks on someone for being gay. No problem with either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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