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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    The fact that we even have to argue this point is counterproductive. Why is it your way or the highway? Many have suggested alternate strategies, but the left has rejected all of them.

    It's actually dropping.
    Wrong. The right has rejected civil unions at every turn.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No, that would be you.

    It's funny that you think your freedom is somehow suppressed by all this. What choice of yours is restricted by two other peoples' marriage?
    As a minister of the church my choice of who I marry is now limited if not nonexistent.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    As a minister of the church my choice of who I marry is now limited if not nonexistent.
    um evidence please.
    Last edited by blarg; 10-14-14 at 11:09 AM.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    As a minister of the church my choice of who I marry is now limited if not nonexistent.
    What? No it isn't. You can perform a ceremony for anyone you like.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I'd like to see a single person show me actual proof that God is on their side. I dare you or anyone else to try. I guarantee you can't do it. Some may try using subjective opinions and personal beliefs, but they will fail.
    No, I want to know how YOU know that God is not on anybody else's side, it's your claim to defend.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    If you do, you're up against centuries of philosophical and theological thought.

    Do you know that when I was your age homosexuality was in the DSM III as a personality disorder? This whole "gay rights" thing, perpetrated by a tiny minorty by design, is a new concept. It is more of a political movement than it is a moral or philosophical movement. Some of us see it for what it is. Some of us don't.

    You want to present yourself as a critical thinker on these forums but going along with pop culture is not critical thinking, it's just front running.

    And the question then is why was it put into the DMS III (and earlier versions) to begin with. Was it because it was a mental disorder that inhibited the individuals ability to function in society, or was it philosophical, social, and theological thought against homosexuals that justified and resutled in it's placement there.


    Many are willing to question the removal of sexual orientation from the DSM, I've rarely seen anyone question it's placement there to begin with.


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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    On the contrary, politics and the law are often very separate things.

    I didn't set this course for you, I am just following your lead.

    The fact that we even have to argue this point is counterproductive. Why is it your way or the highway? Many have suggested alternate strategies, but the left has rejected all of them.

    It's actually dropping.
    No, politics and the law are pretty well entwined, no matter whether you wish to recognize this fact or not.

    You did set the course by bringing up sex lives when we are discussing relationships, marriages. They are not the same thing for the majority of people. A person likely has sex within their relationship, but most relationships, particularly marriages, do not revolve around sex.

    There are no viable, fair alternatives when it comes to marriage.

    Show evidence it is dropping significantly. I haven't even seen a legitimate "drop" in support, not overall. More older people are growing supportive, more Republicans, more minorities (that were less likely to be supportive), even more Christians.

    Changing Attitudes on Gay Marriage | Pew Research Center's Religion & Public Life Project

    Heck, even more Republican politicians are supporting it.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    No, I want to know how YOU know that God is not on anybody else's side, it's your claim to defend.
    Nope. I know that you can't prove that any god is on yours or anyone else's side, so then that means that any such claim is ridiculous to begin with and can be countered with just as unprovable assertions.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    As a minister of the church my choice of who I marry is now limited if not nonexistent.
    No, it isn't. Ministers are always free to turn away any couple when it comes to conducting a marriage ceremony. There is absolutely no proof that this is going to change or has changed anywhere in the US. Ministers still turn away couples of different races and religions, even as recently making the news for doing so just last year.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Except, God's not really on your side. You simply believe He is.
    well all right to be fair that post went to far since it declared god was not on his side since we don't know if no gods are on the side of wch

    yet to see anything to counter the

    you simply believe he is bit

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