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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    Not all political movements are good. ISIS is a political movement. Not good. Socialism was a political movement. Not good. Conflating your sex life to the status of race is absurd on it's face, and it will only be counterproductive, it's counterproductive already.
    Never said they were, but you posted as if implying that making it legal for same sex couples to marry is just a political movement. It isn't just a political movement, but still involves politics because politics and the law pretty much coexist.

    Same sex relationships/marriages are just as much about sex as opposite sex, interracial, same race, interfaith, same faith, and no faith relationships/marriages are. Those fighting for same sex couples to be able to marry legally are not the ones reducing anyone's relationships/marriages to a sex life, that would be you.

    There is nothing counterproductive to stating the facts here. You have no evidence that it is counterproductive either, since the trend obviously shows that same sex relationships/marriages are becoming more and more supported, not less.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Marriage isn't sex, chief. Gay people already have sex, I don't know if you were aware of that.

    This is about marriage. Ask any married man, that's not the same thing as sex. Quit obsessing over the sex.
    Well, you can't miss the point by a hell of a lot more than that.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    is it spontaneous combustion you worried about being caused by homosexuality? cause iv been around gay people no one burst into flames from exposure to gay have you seen a different result some place?

    is there another problem your concerned homosexuality cause that we have evidence for?

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    It restricts my liberty right now as a minister of the church. Your ignorance of that fact doesn't change it.
    in what way?

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    I call BS on that. If it is a LAW, then let the legislature vote on it, and let the governor sign it. Oh, wait, they already did. So a judge comes in and turns over the will of the people with one stroke of the pen.

    That is not "Constitutional". It is oligharchy, rule by a few, not of the people, not by the people, not for the people. THAT, my friend, is what we object to, a point that you fail to address over and over again. Many of us do not subscribe to your left wing notions about made up "rights", not when they come against rights that have been delineated since the beginning of the country, LIKE freedom of religion. And don't bother equating sexual preference to civil rights for blacks and women, let's dispense with that right now. You can't even define sexual preference, it's not fixed. Even the science says it is a continuum. The opinion of an unelected judge changes nothing, the man is not an expert in human sexuality.

    This little crusade yours is not "Constitutional". It is a tyranny of the minority.
    This is the US, which means laws have to be constitutional. Laws that restrict people from entering into a government offered system/kinship/contract based on their sex/gender, without furthering any legitimate state interest violate the US Constitution.

    The Court, judges, Justices have over turned the "will of the people" (really just a majority of people at a given point in time since that is all a vote is) on many occasions because the people try to violate the rights of others. You don't have to "subscribe" to anything, but that doesn't put you in the majority nor even on the "right" side of this issue.

    I'm in the majority, in more ways than one on this issue.
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    Really? I'd like to hear the justification for that.
    I'd like to see a single person show me actual proof that God is on their side. I dare you or anyone else to try. I guarantee you can't do it. Some may try using subjective opinions and personal beliefs, but they will fail.
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    No, I am saying that when retailers refuse to make a wedding cake for ANYBODY, what are you going to do, force them?

    Scenario: The best baker/photographer/caterer in town is a Christian. He/she no longer does weddings because of this crap, but his/her work is still highly prized.

    What are you going to do, force him to serve you?

    Logically speaking if the baker has voluntarily chosen not supply wedding cakes, then they are not the best commercial supplier of wedding cakes in the area.

    Simply go to the best wedding cake supplier in the area.



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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    Well, you can't miss the point by a hell of a lot more than that.
    not all political movements are good think we all got that one but im guising every one all ready knew that were you trying to make another 1?

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    Well, you can't miss the point by a hell of a lot more than that.
    No, that would be you.

    It's funny that you think your freedom is somehow suppressed by all this. What choice of yours is restricted by two other peoples' marriage?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    =roguenuke;1063864399]Never said they were, but you posted as if implying that making it legal for same sex couples to marry is just a political movement. It isn't just a political movement, but still involves politics because politics and the law pretty much coexist.
    On the contrary, politics and the law are often very separate things.

    Same sex relationships/marriages are just as much about sex as opposite sex, interracial, same race, interfaith, same faith, and no faith relationships/marriages are. Those fighting for same sex couples to be able to marry legally are not the ones reducing anyone's relationships/marriages to a sex life, that would be you.
    I didn't set this course for you, I am just following your lead.

    There is nothing counterproductive to stating the facts here.
    The fact that we even have to argue this point is counterproductive. Why is it your way or the highway? Many have suggested alternate strategies, but the left has rejected all of them.

    You have no evidence that it is counterproductive either, since the trend obviously shows that same sex relationships/marriages are becoming more and more supported, not less.
    It's actually dropping.

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