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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    What percentage of SSMz actually involve children (counting the ones whose lives are ruined bscause of it) ?
    What percent of heterosexual marriages actually involve children? (Counting the ones whose lives are ruined because of it)

    You cannot possibly prove that any child's life is "ruined" because their parents were gay. Some gay parents are likely bad parents and ruined their children's lives, but it wasn't because they were gay. That is a fantasy of those against same sex marriage and same sex couples raising children, not reality.
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Stigmatization.

    The Leftist mind washings have also driven a wedge between children and normal parents.
    This is like saying that mixed children are stigmatized by their families for making them believe that interracial relationships are normal and that mixed children's stigmatization (which still does exist in some places) is due to their parents, not those who are simply being taught to hate others based on who their parents are, to stigmatize, tease, or ostracize others based on who their parents are.
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

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    South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses


    Posted: 10/09/2014 12:29 pm EDT Updated: 10/09/2014 12:59 pm EDT





    COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) — The South Carolina Supreme Court is ordering state probate courts not to issue same-sex marriage licenses until a federal judge decides whether the state constitution's ban on the unions is legal.

    The Supreme Court's order disappointed dozens of gay couples in a whirlwind week of legal maneuvers.
    The Good Guys are the ones who don't impose their beliefs on others. Denying marriage to consenting non-related adult humans defines what a bad guy is.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    You discriminate every day. We just haven't made your brand of discrimination against the law. But we will.

    What are you going to say when thinking people say "I don't make wedding cakes, I don't perform marriages, I don't cater wedding receptions"?

    Force them?
    Okay? If they don't actually do those things, make wedding cakes, perform marriages, cater wedding receptions, then they are not going to run into any legal problems if they turn anyone down for refusing to do those things for them. They have never agreed to do those things for others in the public to begin with.
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Okay? If they don't actually do those things, make wedding cakes, perform marriages, cater wedding receptions, then they are not going to run into any legal problems if they turn anyone down for refusing to do those things for them. They have never agreed to do those things for others in the public to begin with.
    I am not sure why this is such a difficult concept!

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    I am not sure why this is such a difficult concept!
    And the only time that "performing" wedding ceremonies may come into the picture as being in conflict with antidiscrimination laws is if there is a business where the person has declared that they will marry anyone then tells a couple because of some protected characteristic (they are mixed race, mixed faith, same sex, opposite sex, an old woman and young, but still adult man) that they will not marry them. (Thinking wedding chapels in Vegas may have an issue if they try to refuse to marry someone, but not totally sure, since it might depend on the circumstances and don't know what rules those chapels fall under.)
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    And the only time that "performing" wedding ceremonies may come into the picture as being in conflict with antidiscrimination laws is if there is a business where the person has declared that they will marry anyone then tells a couple because of some protected characteristic (they are mixed race, mixed faith, same sex, opposite sex, an old woman and young, but still adult man) that they will not marry them. (Thinking wedding chapels in Vegas may have an issue if they try to refuse to marry someone, but not totally sure, since it might depend on the circumstances and don't know what rules those chapels fall under.)
    Exactly. No one is forcing a Priest to perform a marriage ceremony for a gay couple.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    How about their being a horrible example.for our young people?
    Circular. You think they are a horrible example because of some detriment to society. Since you can't identify any detriment, they are not a "horrible example" of anything.

    How about we would eventually die out if everyone decide to be Gay?
    Do you really want me to address this? Really? This is a real argument you are making?
    Homosexuals are a detriment because if theoretically everyone on the planet "decided to be gay," we would eventually die out. That's your ****ing argument. Really.

    First off, no we wouldn't. Homosexuals can and do have children. The parts all still function, WCH. Second, there are other means of conception that science has given us. Third, people would still want to have children. Fourth, you don't "decide to be gay." It is not a conscious choice. Finally, this might be the dumbest argument I've ever heard. Do yo think that's a possibility? Can you really tell me that you honestly have concern that every person on the planet might "decide to be gay." Are you going to decide to be gay? Seriously, you brought this argument up. Are you telling me it's honest? Tell me. I want you to tell me that this is honestly an argument you are making in favor of homosexuality being a detriment. Do you have the courage to stand by your statements?

    How about God detroying us for allowing it to be normalised?
    When that happens, you'll have some evidence that homosexuals are a detriment to society. Assuming you can link homosexuality to that wrath and not, say, the divorce rate of heterosexuals or the murder rate in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. But we're talking about mortal laws and actions and courts here. "God might destroy us" is not going to hold up in court, surely you agree.
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    You discriminate every day. We just haven't made your brand of discrimination against the law. But we will.

    What are you going to say when thinking people say "I don't make wedding cakes, I don't perform marriages, I don't cater wedding receptions"?

    Force them?
    Wait, are you suggesting someone will try to force a real estate salesman to make a wedding cake? And you think anti-discrimination laws would require them to make a wedding cake?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    How about their being a horrible example.for our young people? How about we would eventually die out if everyone decide to be Gay? How about God detroying us for allowing it to be normalised?
    "Horrible example for our young people" would be a subjective assessment and therefore meaningless. And you cannot turn someone gay by mentoring them or setting an example for them.

    No, we would not all die out. As others have pointed out, and I have done on other threads, this is the stupidest argument ever in relation to this subject. Gay people can still have children. Men and women will still want to have children, even if they don't necessarily want to be in intimate relationships with each other. You can have sex with someone just for the purpose of procreation without any intimate relationship with that person. Plus, there are these methods we have now that can make babies without sex. Miracles of science. And most importantly, there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that everyone would "decide" to become gay. If anything, we might all become bisexual, which would not affect us having children at all.

    I'd be more concerned about God destroying us for allowing rape, murders, crime, hurting our fellow man, judging our fellow man in His place, and so many other things that are supposedly (according to the Bible and the Ten Commandments) more important to God. God has had tens of thousands of years to take us out for homosexuality, and yet refuses. We have members of certain religions killing members of other religions all over the world. There are women being killed just for wanting equal rights, an education, to not be beat or considered slaves/property, yet you believe that God is so petty that He would be more concerned with the gays?
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