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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Because you can't get remarried if you are still married to your abuser. Why would you want someone to stay married to their abuser?
    Because it is not possible ontologically to terminate such a marriage.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    Because it is not possible ontologically to terminate such a marriage.
    People do it all the time. They break ties and move on with their lives, sometimes never even having contact with the ex again. In every manner of reasoning, that is a relationship that is ended. What you are attempting to describe is your ideal situation, not reality.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    He uses the 'natural law' premise to try and get around his Catholic beliefs and using God. He has admitted he knows however, that the 'natural law' philosophy also appeals to a higher authority and nature being driven by a higher purpose.

    I am not criticizing but explaining his use of 'natural', which he has written here himself.
    It is his way of making it seem like he is not advocating for a theocratic like rule.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    It is correct that my being Catholic is why I believe divorce should be illegal.
    You do understand that our government is made for people of all faiths (and people who have no religion as well).

    You want to impose your faith on others by pushing for a law that is founded in your faith.

    Why not let YOUR faith guide YOUR actions?

    Outlawing divorce. Seriously?

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    Because it is not possible ontologically to terminate such a marriage.
    That is your belief and your faith. Stop trying to apply it to law that is meant to apply to all. Let your faith and your belief guide your actions. Advocating for a law that applies to your belief and faith (and not to the rest of us who are not faithful to YOUR beliefs) is the going towards theocracy.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    That is your belief and your faith.
    It is reality, that I happen to acknowledge.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    It is reality, that I happen to acknowledge.
    Your faith is your perception of reality.

    You seem to lack the ability to separate faith from fact and reality. The only true reality, is that it is your faith and wanting your faith to be applied to others in a governmental way is at the heart of theocracy.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Well fornication within marriage is adultery, so then why did you say 'non-fornicating?'
    A normal hetero marriage
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    People can change their minds, and they can also legally get out of contracts. Life changes, people change. No one else is justified in judging their reasons. Certainly not you or the govt.

    Forcing people to remain in relationships can do more harm than good...more abuse, more violence, more children seeing and continuing the cycle.

    You extend your religious beliefs into fantasy. That is scary.

    And 'my God' is the God of the New Testament. Loving and forgiving. Not vengeful and petty.
    unless you continue to sin ....then hes not that loving.
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Note that you haven't actually specified any sort of detriment. Any number of things humans do and create are arguably "unnatural." Any number of choices we make aren't "natural." That's not an argument, that's a cop out. A way to declare homosexuality as harmful without any actual rationale for that opinion, and it's a way to avoid rebuttal.
    How about their being a horrible example.for our young people? How about we would eventually die out if everyone decide to be Gay? How about God detroying us for allowing it to be normalised?
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