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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    When a minority is seen as a detriment to the overall wellbeing of the whole, then we must make exeptions.
    And since that is not the case in this matter, your position does not apply.
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    When a minority is seen as a detriment to the overall wellbeing of the whole, then we must make exeptions.
    and homosexuality is hurting people how gay marriage is hurting people how?

    what you see is not enough if its only in your head

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

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    There are no atheists in foxholes or on their deathbed my left wing friend.
    First of all, yes there are.

    Second of all, a person doesn't have to be atheist to believe that Christians and even other organized religions are full of it.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    In government terms, marriage is a type of contract between two people.

    DIvorce ends the "contract".

    Your overthink is amusing.
    It is a contract which lasts by nature until the death of one of the spouses. The state should not purport otherwise.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    It is a contract which lasts by nature until the death of one of the spouses. The state should not purport otherwise.
    WTF are you talking about.

    Seriously. I think you are down this "nature" path because you do not want to say "God".

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    You've got it backwards. In rational basis review, the law being challenged is presumed constitutional. The party challenging it has the burden of showing that is is not rationally related to any legitimate government purpose.

    That is usually very hard to do, because under this standard courts defer strongly to the legislature that passed the law being challenged. They do that to respect the basic principle of the separation of powers that's built into the Constitution. That requires courts in equal protection cases to have a damn good reason to substitute their judgment for the legislature's--and indirectly, for the judgment of the people who elected that legislature.

    Take public nudity as an example. If a state law prohibits it, or allows it only in a few specified places, is it denying nudists the equal protection of the laws in violation of the 14th Amendment? If some nudists' rights group sued, would the state, to justify its law, have to produce evidence that allowing public nudity is an unwise, socially destructive policy? Would it have to refute evidence presented by the nudists that its view was unfounded, because public nudity has never been shown to have harmed anyone where it was practiced?

    Of course not. Ordinary rational basis review would apply, because there is no fundamental right to go nude in public, nor do laws that discriminate against nudists create a suspect classification. The nudist group wouldn't stand a snowball's chance in hell of winning.

    What bigotry! How terribly cruel and unfair! What about their rights to live as wonderful, loving people who mean no harm to anyone, free from oppression? Why doesn't the Supreme Court Do something!!??

    Maybe next we'll see nudists recognized as a new victim group, trying like the others, no doubt, to trade on the imagery of the black civil rights movement. I can picture them marching--in the snow, maybe, to symbolize the suffering they've endured all these years. "We shall overcome some day-ay-ay-ay-ay . . ."
    I've shot down every supposed rational interest supporting a same-sex marriage ban.

    Do you have some more?
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Gay adulterers and fornicators and SSM for sure. Thanks for describing the problems.
    Why only oppose their marriage and not heterosexual fornicators and adulterers?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    When a minority is seen as a detriment to the overall wellbeing of the whole, then we must make exeptions.
    Unfortunately that sentiment is not codified in any US Law, Federal statute, or Constitutional provision.

    There is absolutely no blue-print in any lawful US document that describes how those exemptions would be applied.


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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    In my case it keeps my children 1200 miles away from me. I don't think you should be able to marry with that great a distance between the parents.

    Also, the woman my dad married when I was a kid caused nothing but drama in the family and continues to keep a wedge between us and him. I think a professional should have to conduct comprehensive pre-marital counseling and aprove your marriage aplication before the state will issue a license. I also think cohabiting while caring for children should be illegal.

    I'm not sure why you lie and say no one's ever answered that question, it's been directly answered many times. Your emotinal hysteria doesn't advance the discussion.
    Your answer is stupid. And I don't just mean all the misspelled words. The fact that two people of the same sex get married doesn't hurt you. Your personal family issues are not a part of this. I don't have "emotinal hysteria", but the question I asked has never been answered, other than in a non germane and idiotic way.
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    First of all, yes there are.

    Second of all, a person doesn't have to be atheist to believe that Christians and even other organized religions are full of it.
    When you face your maker you will regret that statement.
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