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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Gays created gays my left wing friend but I could care less about that..I just don't want the definition of marriage changed. What part of that do you not understand?
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The 4th circuit's decision is binding. There's no reason to grant an injunction because there's no expectation whatsoever that an appeal would be successful. It's done.
    1. Thank you for demonstrating your ignorance. Circuit courts do not create binding precedent for state courts.

    2. The state isn't appealing because no judgment has been issued against them. The only thing being injuncted is the illegal act of a local official to grant fraudulent marriage licenses.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    The state supreme court can not trump a federal court order. It is an invalid order.

    It would be no different than a state's county judge ruling on a state's constitutional law. The county judge can not over-rule the state's supreme court ruling. The county judge is not over the state supreme court justice.

    A state supreme court justice is not over the federal court judge.

    Technically the State Supreme Court has not attempted to "trump" a federal court order as the 4th Circuit hasn't issued an order applicable to South Carolina. The lower court State judges kind of jumped the gun by ordering licenses were to be issued without guidance from the Governor and AG as to whether they would continue to defend that States ban.

    What really has to occur is a case must proceed through the Federal District Court and be ruled on. Once that ruling is in place it can be appealed to the 4th Circuit Court who would accept or reject the appeal. If the District Court rules to overturn the ban, the State can appeal to the 4th Circuit. If the 4th Circuit rejects the appeal, the State can appeal to the SCOTUS for an immediate to keep SSCM's from starting. If that appeal is rejected at the SCOTUS like the others, assuming the District Court and Appeals Court rules the ban is unconstitutional, then Circuit Court orders SSCM's to start.


    Basically the process is a delaying tactic at this point. What I assume South Carolina is hoping for is for the 6th Circuit Court to rule on the case (IIRC) out of Kentucky and that the 6th Circuit rules to uphold the ban. Then there is a split in the Circuit Court decisions which increases the chances the SCOTUS would (a) issue a new round of stays, and (b) that the SCOTUS will take the case.



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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    1. Thank you for demonstrating your ignorance. Circuit courts do not create binding precedent for state courts.

    2. The state isn't appealing because no judgment has been issued against them. The only thing being injuncted is the illegal act of a local official to grant fraudulent marriage licenses.
    They create binding decisions for states.
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by The Immortal View Post
    Nothing diabolical about it. They just want the state's to weigh in so that once they make their decision they have as little dissension in the lower courts as possible.
    Ahhhh - those State had already "weighed in". Their actions were ruled unconstitutional and those laws have been invalidated.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Immortal View Post
    And nobody says they can't be married. They simply would no longer qualify to receive marriage benefits.

    I specifically said "Civil Marriage" (i.e. that recognized under the law), if those Civil Marriages occurred in a State Jurisdiction where the Civil Marriage was legal - then the government can't just "not recognize them". That's what Windsor was about, the Federal government choosing "not to recognize" valid Civil Marriages - that action was ruled unconstitutional.



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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    They create binding decisions for states.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    The bottom line is individual states have voted over and over again to define marriage as a union between a man and a woman and left wing activist judges in most cases have over ruled the will of the people and that is just wrong no matter what liberals say.
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Alan Keyes is sooooo gay!

    Your god creates gays, therefore.....god is gay..

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    One more time my left wing friend and I want you to concentrate like a laser beam..............Gays create gays.
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    One more time my left wing friend and I want you to concentrate like a laser beam..............Gays create gays.
    So, god is gay, Allan Keyes is gay, Dick Cheney is gay. I am using your logic, do you not understand? If gays create gays, all them are gay.

    Your words, your twisted hateful "logic".

    Focus on your own stupid words, I know, its hard.
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    One more time my left wing friend and I want you to concentrate like a laser beam..............Gays create gays.
    Perhaps a simple biology course would be helpful.

    Heterosexuals are almost always the creators of gay people.

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