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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Male/male and female/female pairings make absolutely no sense whatsoever from any natural perspective and they weren't what the institution of marriage was designed to support. I get that it helps people argue that "homosexuality is just the new normal" if society agrees to treat homosexual unions exactly the same as heterosexual unions but I think that's society's decision to make if they want to do that and not the decision of a vocal minority group that wants to "normalize" their sexual proclivity.
    And yet they happen in nature. We do lots of things that go against design (study the back sometime), many of which we accept without question. And no, I think it is each individual decision to make. Who I marry, as long as they are of age, of the same species, and not too closely related is my business and not yours at all. My own marriage keeps me busy enough that I don't need yours to worry about. And I damn sure don't want you or anyone else in mine.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    And another said that it would be a bad idea for them to step in, anyway, because it's something the states need to deal with at the legislative level. And yet another said that with homosexual marriage being such a new concept, it cannot be assumed that those rejecting it are doing so out of bigotry.
    So prove that's the case. Come up with an argument that can't be reduced to "i'm better than you"

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    That's a fair point, it shouldn't be assumed that people opposing something have bad motives. But the courts have invited opposition to SSM to testify about their reasons, and those opposed repeatedly come up short and essentially can't articulate reasons to oppose SSM that don't fall back on some notion of traditional values, religion, or bigotry.

    Here's Scalia: [The court] "has largely signed on to the so-called homosexual agenda, by which I mean the agenda promoted by some homosexual activists directed at eliminating the moral opprobrium that has traditionally attached to homosexual conduct." His view is clear enough - laws against homosexuality are fine because society has a right to attach moral opprobrium (bigotry, in formal legalese) against homosexuality.
    Not surprising since we both can look up numerous bigoted statements from his dissent in lawrence v texas alone

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Has no one noticed that Wyoming gave up and started issuing marriage licenses to SSM couples yesterday (immediately upon its decision)?
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Has no one noticed that Wyoming gave up and started issuing marriage licenses to SSM couples yesterday (immediately upon its decision)?

    I did, people keep saying it's 31 states, but with the addition of Wyoming I think it's now 32. Not worth the effort though to correct the.



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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
    I did, people keep saying it's 31 states, but with the addition of Wyoming I think it's now 32. Not worth the effort though to correct the.



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    I missed it, where? I saw no threads on it.
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I missed it, where? I saw no threads on it.

    You didn't ask if I made threads, you asked if anyone noticed. Yes I noticed, I didn't make a thread on it though.



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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    So prove that's the case. Come up with an argument that can't be reduced to "i'm better than you"
    Whether you marry or not has nothing to do with how much better you are than other people. It has to do with whether or not you want to be married and can find a suitable partner. Being married isn't being better or worse than anyone else. It's just being married. And if you don't want to engage in relationships that are suitable for marriage, you have every right to do that.

    You aren't Mohammed and marriage isn't the mountain. Don't expect that the mountain must come to you if you don't want to go to the mountain.
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Who I marry, as long as they are of age, of the same species, and not too closely related is my business and not yours at all.
    True, up until you ask the government to sanction your marriage, at which point it becomes everyone's business. If you want society to completely ignore your marriage, then why bother with a legal marriage?

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    True, up until you ask the government to sanction your marriage, at which point it becomes everyone's business. If you want society to completely ignore your marriage, then why bother with a legal marriage?
    Great, so when do I get to weigh in on on your marriage? Can't wait!

    I know one of the first things I do when others care what I think about their marriages is take a good, long look at Newt Gingrich marriage #3. Really, should society sanction someone marrying a mistress, who was part of an adulterous affair while hubby was married to wifey #2? I think not...

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