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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by it's just me View Post
    He means that if the state wants to re-define marriage the people should have some say in it, so make a law and pass it, but you know that the oligharchy won't stand for the people's voice being heard.

    But it will be, whether they want it or not.
    If they were truly "redefining" marriage, not just trying to restrict people from marriage, then the people would have a say in it. But that isn't what is happening here. Marriage is legally defined by how it functions, not who can or can't enter into it.

    If we had these legal restrictions of marriage in place, no one under the age of 18, must be two humans of the same sex, within 40 IQ points of each other who live in the same state, the definition of marriage is not "two humans of the same sex, who are at least 18 years of age, and not more than 40 IQ points apart or citizens of different states". That simply is not how we define stuff. That is merely restrictions on entering into something.

    Marriage is defined as a legal agreement between people that creates a legally recognized kinship between those people which comes with state and federal benefits, rights, and privileges under the law.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Since marriage is an institution created by man and defined by man, what men think matters in ways that it wouldn't over simple assertions of fact. What most people consider marriage to be is what marriage actually is or at least should be since this is a democracy and marriage is a matter of democratic law. If the majority think homosexual marriage is something the state should sanction, the legislature should take that into consideration in their law governing marriage and it's definition. And vice versa.
    nope bans on interracial marriage were always wrong man you need actual reasons to change that same with ssm opinion doesn't cut it

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    nope bans on interracial marriage were always wrong man you need actual reasons to change that same with ssm opinion doesn't cut it
    Homosexuality is a behavior, not a race.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    States rights. What San Francisco residents think doesn't hold water in Alabama. I've got no problem with states redefining marriage to include homosexuals if that supports the values of the people in that state. Not all states are full of people that think this sort of social experiment is a good idea.
    states don't have a right to treat citizens unequally udder the law and with out cause to boot the states don't have the right to discriminate against peapole with out reason

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Homosexuality is a behavior, not a race.
    one you don't control even since we must be counting the desire but do you think any one doesn't know that?

    don't play stupid

    this isn't true for interracial marriage it doesn't hold up for same sex marriage or anything else

    What most people consider marriage to be is what marriage actually is or at least should be since this is a democracy and marriage is a matter of democratic law. If the majority think homosexual marriage is something the state should sanction, the legislature should take that into consideration in their law governing marriage and it's definition. And vice versa.

    you need non insane reasons to discriminate against people in this country deal with it

    with out those you can shove your states rights citizens rights come 1st

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Whoops! Looks like I could stand to take my own advice: the number of 55% is a bit old and that number is actually 56%.



    Poll: Majority support SCOTUS gay marriage decision - Jonathan Topaz - POLITICO.com
    This is getting really embarrassing. First I say that support for ssm is 55% when it was really in fact 56%, then I say that the number of states with ssm is 31 when, if I had bothered to do a modicum of research, I would have found it was in fact 32 after a Wyoming Federal Court's decision on Friday.

    I really need to get with it, here.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Homosexuality is a behavior, not a race.
    Choosing to be with someone of a different or particular race is a behavior, a choice, not a race in itself.
    Last edited by roguenuke; 10-20-14 at 08:10 PM.
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Choosing to be with someone of a different or particular race is a behavior, a choice, not a race in itself.
    I'm ok with his logic. Choosing to be with someone of a different/particular/same race is about race. Therefore choosing to be with someone of a different/particular/same gender gender is about gender.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I'm ok with his logic. Choosing to be with someone of a different/particular/same race is about race. Therefore choosing to be with someone of a different/particular/same gender gender is about gender.
    Absolutely, but that is not his actual logic. He is trying to combine the two concepts, in a way where one is the characteristic (race/interracial marriage), and the other about the choice (relationship/same sex marriage). They either both must be about the characteristic or about the choice, otherwise, it is dishonest or illogical.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Homosexuality is a behavior, not a race.
    Religion is a behavior.

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