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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    you should not do that then
    head over apparently point flying
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

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    head over apparently point flying
    tell me about it

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    tell me about it
    I already did and I don't think repeating it will make you more inclined to get a point you don't want to get.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

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    I already did and I don't think repeating it will make you more inclined to get a point you don't want to get.
    yep that's how it goes all right

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    I didn't say homosexuality is wrong. I said that marriage is a union of two people that must have one member of each sex. My position has nothing to do with the rightness or wrongness of homosexuality. It has to do with the nature of marriage. It is a "marriage" of opposite sexes into a single union. Two people of the same sex are just a couple of people. They can love each other. They can engage in sexual activity if they wish. They can live together. They can be devoted to each other. But it can't be marriage because that's not the fundamental nature of marriage. Marriage was never intended nor designed to be some kind of insult to homosexuals. It's purpose isn't to "exclude" homosexuals. The nature of homosexuality is such that homosexuals, for the most part, exclude themselves because their choices in sexual partners make it impossible for those sex partners to be marriage partners because a marriage partner has to be of the opposite sex. Now we might break from that sane and rational tradition of marriage, but it will make us the exception to the rule.
    any marriage is still just a couple of peapole like I said we don't have any requirements for marriage that require a specific gender theirs no fundamental requirement for both genders at all

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    I didn't say homosexuality is wrong. I said that marriage is a union of two people that must have one member of each sex. My position has nothing to do with the rightness or wrongness of homosexuality. It has to do with the nature of marriage. It is a "marriage" of opposite sexes into a single union. Two people of the same sex are just a couple of people. They can love each other. They can engage in sexual activity if they wish. They can live together. They can be devoted to each other. But it can't be marriage because that's not the fundamental nature of marriage. Marriage was never intended nor designed to be some kind of insult to homosexuals. It's purpose isn't to "exclude" homosexuals. The nature of homosexuality is such that homosexuals, for the most part, exclude themselves because their choices in sexual partners make it impossible for those sex partners to be marriage partners because a marriage partner has to be of the opposite sex. Now we might break from that sane and rational tradition of marriage, but it will make us the exception to the rule.
    Why is it badmouthing and intolerance to disagree with you?

    You are disagreeing with me right now. That's intolerance. Right?
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    I didn't say homosexuality is wrong.
    Are you saying it is right then?

    I said that marriage is a union of two people that must have one member of each sex.
    Why? Why is it that you never want to answer the real questions?

    It has to do with the nature of marriage. It is a "marriage" of opposite sexes into a single union.
    Again why on what basis and on who's authority?

    But it can't be marriage because that's not the fundamental nature of marriage.
    Says who? Can you answer that for once?

    Marriage was never intended nor designed to be some kind of insult to homosexuals. It's purpose isn't to "exclude" homosexuals.
    Yet that is exactly what you advocate.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    any marriage is still just a couple of peapole like I said we don't have any requirements for marriage that require a specific gender theirs no fundamental requirement for both genders at all
    Oil is oil. Vinegar is vinegar. Mixing oil and oil results in something called "oil". Mixing vinegar and vinegar produces something called "vinegar". Only by combining the oil with the vinegar do you get mayonnaise and even though the oil might feel all butt-hurt because it doesn't want to be mixed with vinegar but still wants to be "mayonnaise", the oil will just have to get over it because that's not how it works.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Oil is oil. Vinegar is vinegar. Mixing oil and oil results in something called "oil". Mixing vinegar and vinegar produces something called "vinegar". Only by combining the oil with the vinegar do you get mayonnaise and even though the oil might feel all butt-hurt because it doesn't want to be mixed with vinegar but still wants to be "mayonnaise", the oil will just have to get over it because that's not how it works.
    Usage of words changes. If you think arguing definitions is a strong argument against individual freedom, I don't know what to tell you.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    Are you saying it is right then?
    Nope. I have made no judgement call on whether homosexuality is wrong or right.

    Why? Why is it that you never want to answer the real questions?
    Why do you ask questions with a false premise like that?

    Again why on what basis and on who's authority?
    "We the people" are the authority on that. And we the people of Ohio haven't agreed to re-invent marriage from the union of a man and woman to "any two people that want to share their property".


    Says who? Can you answer that for once?
    I've answered it numerous times. I just answered it again.

    Yet that is exactly what you advocate.
    No it is not. I would not write a law that requires anyone to swear they aren't homosexual before being allowed to marry. They just have to pick someone of the opposite sex. Homosexuals have always been allowed to marry. If you don't believe me, ask Jim McGreevy, former governor of New Jersey.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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