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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The judge is breaking the law by doing this. Why do you support that?
    And worse, he's part of a conspiracy to destroy Israel.

    Now you make up another wildly ridiculous claim.

    Actually you were correct, the judge did violate the law by issuing gay marriage licenses and he should be prosecuted.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    since god created them, according to religious nuts, yeah thank him.
    How you figure that? Gay Marriage (not SSM) someone will protest their way into changing the US constitution?

    If you actually believe that then you must be a fanboy of anarchy.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    How you figure that? Gay Marriage (not SSM) someone will protest their way into changing the US constitution?

    If you actually believe that then you must be a fanboy of anarchy.
    god Created GAYS. Take your anti-SSM and go to Iran if you hate it so much you have more in common with them than Americans.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Well the state SC ordered licensing to stop and that is a step in t he right direction IMHO.
    The state supreme court can not trump a federal court order. It is an invalid order.

    It would be no different than a state's county judge ruling on a state's constitutional law. The county judge can not over-rule the state's supreme court ruling. The county judge is not over the state supreme court justice.

    A state supreme court justice is not over the federal court judge.


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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by The Immortal View Post
    It's inevitable that it will be taken up by the Supreme Court. When they rule it's an issue for State's rights over Federal Rights, like they did with the DOMA decision, the crying is going to be epic.

    Why those sneaky bastards.

    The refused to hear cases on appeal from the 10th, 7th, and 4th Circuit courts where in each of the 7 cases (7 cases, from 5 states, heard by the 3 Circuits) where in each case the of Appeals decision was that the State bans were unconstitutional so that the SCOTUS's own stay was lifted (and thereby the stays from the Circuits) which allows same-sex Civil Marriage to start in those 5 States and as many as 11 States once the Cicruit courts apply their ruling to the other 6 states.

    Thousands, probably 10's of thousands of legal same-sex Civil Marriages will occur - marriages that won't be revoked because they were legal at the time. (It would take an ex post facto law to invalidate them, which is itself unconstitutional.)


    Just so in the future they can take some other case and rule that from that point forward that States can enact laws that discriminate against homosexuals.


    Diabolical I say...

    ............... Diabolical.



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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    And worse, he's part of a conspiracy to destroy Israel.

    Now you make up another wildly ridiculous claim.

    Actually you were correct, the judge did violate the law by issuing gay marriage licenses and he should be prosecuted.
    The 4th circuit's decision is binding. There's no reason to grant an injunction because there's no expectation whatsoever that an appeal would be successful. It's done.
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
    Why those sneaky bastards.

    The refused to hear cases on appeal from the 10th, 7th, and 4th Circuit courts where in each of the 7 cases (7 cases, from 5 states, heard by the 3 Circuits) where in each case the of Appeals decision was that the State bans were unconstitutional so that the SCOTUS's own stay was lifted (and thereby the stays from the Circuits) which allows same-sex Civil Marriage to start in those 5 States and as many as 11 States once the Cicruit courts apply their ruling to the other 6 states.

    Thousands, probably 10's of thousands of legal same-sex Civil Marriages will occur - marriages that won't be revoked because they were legal at the time. (It would take an ex post facto law to invalidate them, which is itself unconstitutional.)


    Just so in the future they can take some other case and rule that from that point forward that States can enact laws that discriminate against homosexuals.


    Diabolical I say...

    ............... Diabolical.



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    Nothing diabolical about it. They just want the state's to weigh in so that once they make their decision they have as little dissension in the lower courts as possible.

    And nobody says they can't be married. They simply would no longer qualify to receive marriage benefits.

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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    If it degrades the definition of marriage, and it does I do. my left wing friend.
    You must have a very weak marriage to feel so threatened, my ultra right wing poster.
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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    Quote Originally Posted by The Immortal View Post
    Uhhh no actually they haven't. They've indicated exactly the opposite. They only referenced Loving v Virginia one time in the DOMA decision and that was to assert that while rights have to be given equally, the STATES have the right to decide what marriage consists of.
    No they didn't, you left out the part where the Court in Windsor specifically said State marriage laws could not deprive people of rights and must conform to the United States Constitution:

    "In order to assess the validity of that intervention it is necessary to discuss the extent of the state power and au-thority over marriage as a matter of history and tradition. State laws defining and regulating marriage, of course, must respect the constitutional rights of persons, see, e.g., Loving v. Virginia, 388 U. S. 1 (1967); but, subject to those guarantees, “regulation of domestic relations” is“an area that has long been regarded as a virtually exclusive province of the States.”

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    "Against this background DOMA rejects the long established precept that the incidents, benefits, and obligations of marriage are uniform for all married couples within each State, though they may vary, subject to constitutional guarantees, from one State to the next."

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    "The States’ interest in defining and regulating the marital relation, subject to constitutional guarantees, stems from the understanding that marriage is more than a routine classification for purposes of certain statutory benefits. Private, consensual sexual intimacy between two adult persons of the same sex may not be punished by the State, and it can form “but one element in a personal bond that is more enduring.” Lawrence v. Texas, 539 U. S. 558, 567 (2003)."​


    Quote Originally Posted by The Immortal View Post
    Furthermore, did you forget that the Supreme Court is conservative? 4 out of the 5 conservative members voted against gay marriage in the DOMA decision. The only one who voted in favor with the liberals was Kennedy who is ADAMANTLY in favor of State rights over Federal rights. You have to remember, Kennedy was ruling on a federal law in DOMA that was superseding State law. DOMA basically said even if a state like California voted in favor of gay marriage, they couldn't have gay marriage because DOMA didn't allow it. Kennedy was ruling in favor of STATE rights over Federal rights.
    #1 You forget that Kenndy was the author of BOTH of the major court decisions where State laws were overturned as unconsitutional because they discriminated against homosexuals - right? (Those being Romer v. Evans [1996] and Lawrence v. Texas [2003].)

    #2 Nothing in the Federal DOMA said that States couldn't adopt same-sex Civil Marriage within their own State, it said only that they need not recognize SSCM from other States, that was in section 2. Section 3 said the Federal government would not recognize any SSCM from any State for Federal purposes - and that part has been found unconstitutional by the SCOTUS.


    Quote Originally Posted by The Immortal View Post
    What YOU folks want the Supreme Court to do is rule that FEDERAL law should supersede State law and that if a State wants to define marriage as being between a male and a female, they should not have the right to do so and that a Federal law should supersede that State Law. And I hate to hurt your little feelings (actually I don't) but if you think Kennedy is going to rule in favor of Federal rights over State rights you're absolutely 100% delusional. And without Kennedy the Supreme Court will rule against gay marriage.

    I wouldn't recommend counting your chickens. Kennedy (as previously mentioned) has authored both major cases where the SCOTUS ruled State laws discriminating against homosexuals as unconstitutional.


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    Re: South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

    interesting what happened in SC
    in NC today a FEDERAL judge ended the state ban against same sex marriages
    Same Sex marriage ban overturned in North Carolina - CBS News
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