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‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers[W:702:1041]

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But a system which incorporates Mutualist/Distributist principles are at its foundation.

Mutualist/Distributist? What the hell is that?
 
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Yo! The topic is not each other. Please return to discussing that without the baiting and personal comments.
 
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No, Turtle did not state that a reason was required. But he did at least honestly answer the question, instead of ducking it as you have twice now. Have a nice day :2wave:

Nor did Turtle state he could fire without cause, Karl. It just wasn't brought up in the discussion.
 
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Over 700 posts and not one business owner posting.

Just to clarify, Wiggin earlier in this thread tried to make a distinction that these people that are being called "scabs" here are parasites.

To be clear, all employees are parasites, but they are necessary to run the business.

Union workers make more than they are worth and get benefits they did not earn so I don't see how anybody can defend them, other than the parasites taking what they did not earn.
 
Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

Over 700 posts and not one business owner posting.

Just to clarify, Wiggin earlier in this thread tried to make a distinction that these people that are being called "scabs" here are parasites.

To be clear, all employees are parasites, but they are necessary to run the business.

Union workers make more than they are worth and get benefits they did not earn so I don't see how anybody can defend them, other than the parasites taking what they did not earn.

A worker is not a parasite.
 
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That is an opinion.

Saying a business that hires workers mutually depends on that labor to keep that business afloat, it's hard to draw the conclusion that workers are parasites. If that were the case, the host (business) would not need them to survive.
 
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Saying a business that hires workers mutually depends on that labor to keep that business afloat, it's hard to draw the conclusion that workers are parasites. If that were the case, the host (business) would not need them to survive.

That is true, but if it is being said here non union workers are parasites, who are they feeding off of?
 
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Saying a business that hires workers mutually depends on that labor to keep that business afloat, it's hard to draw the conclusion that workers are parasites. If that were the case, the host (business) would not need them to survive.

true to some point but claiming "scab" is a parasite is equally wrong. Unions generally inflate the cost of the commodity known as labor and rarely provide any additional value to the employer
 
Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

Over 700 posts and not one business owner posting.

Just to clarify, Wiggin earlier in this thread tried to make a distinction that these people that are being called "scabs" here are parasites.

To be clear, all employees are parasites, but they are necessary to run the business.

Union workers make more than they are worth and get benefits they did not earn so I don't see how anybody can defend them, other than the parasites taking what they did not earn.

Not an owner, but his top manager

With 140 employees under my roof

I don't like union...never have....never will

I prefer workers who can negotiate for themselves....who are motivated by their own success

I don't like nor tolerate dead weight lying around.....here everyone is competitive and that keeps everyone sharp and employees running at near peak levels

But we pay for the best employees....probably 15-20 percent over what our competitors pay in some areas

Finding and keeping top talent is hard to do.....but worth it in the profit arena
 
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true to some point but claiming "scab" is a parasite is equally wrong. Unions generally inflate the cost of the commodity known as labor and rarely provide any additional value to the employer

I believe scab is used toward union workers who do some kind of harm toward other union workers.
 
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I believe scab is used toward union workers who do some kind of harm toward other union workers.

Wrong: its a term for people who cross a picket line to work. i.e. someone who would rather work and get paid than be part of the union and strike. It only hurts "union workers" in the sense that it prevents the union from hurting the company. I support those who cross picket lines.
 
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Union workers

That's BS. Unions would have you believe this. Unions are pretty much obsolete entities that only inflate the cost of the product or service of the industries they parasitize
 
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Wrong: its a term for people who cross a picket line to work. i.e. someone who would rather work and get paid than be part of the union and strike. It only hurts "union workers" in the sense that it prevents the union from hurting the company. I support those who cross picket lines.

Crossing a picket most definitely hurts union members.
 
Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

Over 700 posts and not one business owner posting.

Just to clarify, Wiggin earlier in this thread tried to make a distinction that these people that are being called "scabs" here are parasites.

To be clear, all employees are parasites, but they are necessary to run the business.

Union workers make more than they are worth and get benefits they did not earn so I don't see how anybody can defend them, other than the parasites taking what they did not earn.

I am a business owner.....


I don't think workers are parasites....I need them just as much as they need me.... it's codependency at it's finest.

I think some unions are parasites, feeding off the workers while offering little or nothing in return for extorting their hard earned money, but that's more opinion than fact.
 
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That's BS. Unions would have you believe this. Unions are pretty much obsolete entities that only inflate the cost of the product or service of the industries they parasitize

It's not BS. Scab refers to union members who harm other members. Your opinion of unions has nothing to do with the term.
 
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Crossing a picket most definitely hurts union members.

that's like saying my superior resume hurts other applicants for a job or a seat at a law school

If you won't work, someone else will. you only hurt yourself by striking especially when labor is mainly a global commodity these days
 
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It's not BS. Scab refers to union members who harm other members. Your opinion of unions has nothing to do with the term.

wrong again
Strikebreaker - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


the main definition

A strikebreaker (sometimes derogatorily called a scab, blackleg, or knobstick) is a person who works despite an ongoing strike. Strikebreakers are usually individuals who are not employed by the company prior to the trade union dispute, but rather hired after or during the strike to keep the organization running.

my great grandfather, my grandfather and then my father ran a heavy manufacturing business. It was unionized. in 1937 there was a massive strike. My grandfather hired non union workers to keep the company going. There was a picture of my grandfather standing by the gate of the company holding a thompson machine gun to protect the workers from union thugs. BTW FDR made striking against this business illegal a few years later since it was a deemed an "essential wartime industry"

but the "Scabs" were non union workers
 
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that's like saying my superior resume hurts other applicants for a job or a seat at a law school

If you won't work, someone else will. you only hurt yourself by striking especially when labor is mainly a global commodity these days

There is always someone willing to work for less, especially with a glut of workers. That does not mean workers should be exploited.
 
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nope....

non-union workers get nothing from union members..... hell, they have nothing to give

many on the left believe that a job is something you are entitled to and when someone else is willing to do the job better or at less cost than you do, they have taken something from YOU
 
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nope....

non-union workers get nothing from union members..... hell, they have nothing to give

I was referring to those who work in shops where they get all the same exact benefits of their union counterparts but pay nothing in return. The other members of that group pick up the tab.
 
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that's like saying my superior resume hurts other applicants for a job or a seat at a law school

If you won't work, someone else will. you only hurt yourself by striking especially when labor is mainly a global commodity these days

exactly.....

the job has to be done..... if a union workers chooses to leave that job, it doesn't magically do itself....someone will step in to do it.( and they should step in, as it's good for everyone involved)

unionistas should not be so hard on scabs.... in a very real way, those scabs save the unions jobs ( by doing the job and not having the business close down while the strike is ongoing) while grievances are aired and negotiated.
 
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wrong again
Strikebreaker - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


the main definition

A strikebreaker (sometimes derogatorily called a scab, blackleg, or knobstick) is a person who works despite an ongoing strike. Strikebreakers are usually individuals who are not employed by the company prior to the trade union dispute, but rather hired after or during the strike to keep the organization running.

my great grandfather, my grandfather and then my father ran a heavy manufacturing business. It was unionized. in 1937 there was a massive strike. My grandfather hired non union workers to keep the company going. There was a picture of my grandfather standing by the gate of the company holding a thompson machine gun to protect the workers from union thugs. BTW FDR made striking against this business illegal a few years later since it was a deemed an "essential wartime industry"

but the "Scabs" were non union workers

You posted the definition of 'strikebreaker' to prove you're right about the definition of 'scab'!!! :lamo
 
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