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‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers[W:702:1041]

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j-mac said:
Like you claiming your a Moderate? hahahaha!
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He also claims to be a pensioner who doesn't want his pension...:roll:
 
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NIMBY said:
And what have you added to the topic besides yer usual snarky remarks ?
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It's written in this topic - use the back button, navigate to the beginning of this thread and feast your eyes on the wisdom I've already added. I'm certainly not going to repeat myself for your benefit.
 
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Therefore Adelson is a scab--and stands for the GOP with his ads--like the ones against Berkley in 2012.
He'll get his when he meets his Maker .

Thrilla said:
Vegas is nowhere near a "scab town"... nor are adelsons workers "scabs"

you being a tourist in Vegas doesn't mean you know anything about the city....

adelsons properties are non-union (right to work,actually)..every other property is overwhelmingly union.
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More waste of bandwidth .

Ockham said:
It's written in this topic - use the back button, navigate to the beginning of this thread and feast your eyes on the wisdom I've already added. I'm certainly not going to repeat myself for your benefit.
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NIMBY said:
Clownboy is a well-known anti-Union hack who enjoys the fruits of other's labors .
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I am indeed anti-union. I stand with all those who don't want to be forced into a closed shop state. I also have no desire to "enjoy" nor suffer under the fruits of union control. I am more than happy to negotiate for myself.
 
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Karl said:
Your story contradicts your claim.
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no, it doesn't

i know this is hard to understand for the radical unionistas around here but.... "non-union" does NOT equal "scab".

and it's crap like this that makes me believe you unionistas don't actually give a **** about the workers....I'm positive you assume his workers are getting paid less and getting some sort of shaft at these evil non-union properties ( that unions constantly protest)... and I'm positive that you have no idea that his workers have it better than at ANY other property in Vegas, including the union shops.
yup, those evil scabs have better compensation and benefits than your precious unions have negotiated for at ...every... other... property.

but mah.. go ahead and call em scabs or whatever, it just shows everybody that you prioritize the union over the worker.
 
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clownboy said:
I am indeed anti-union. I stand with all those who don't want to be forced into a closed shop state. I also have no desire to "enjoy" nor suffer under the fruits of union control. I am more than happy to negotiate for myself.
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Negotiate for yourself based on where organize labor sets that scale... You don't live in a vacuum...
 
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NIMBY said:
And what have you added to the topic besides yer usual snarky remarks ?
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Pot, kettle, black. Classic.
 
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Thrilla said:
[...] and no, those scabs are not "stealing" ... you walked away from that job voluntarily, they stepped in to do the job when you refused to. [...]
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Using clownboy's imaginary dictionary, eh? :lamo

Since you guys are so desperate for a win, let's rephrase: people who take a union job in the absence of a strike, and refuse to pay a pro-rata share of union dues, are stealing both from the union as well as their fellow workers (Thrilla, you already agree with this in principle).

Several mainstream dictionaries define such people as scabs, a term which can also be used to describe strike-breakers and picket-line crossers.

There -- you guys no long have a dictionary to hide behind :mrgreen:
 
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Another blatant irrational lie--B.I.L. for short if you keep this up--I've said all along that COLA should be means-tested.
States in far better shape than Illinois--but still in bad shape--have enacted common sense fixes to public pensions.
As long as we have public pensioneers like you--common sense and wisdom will not prevail.

But you do expect the federal gov't to live within its means--just not IL .

ChezC3 said:
He also claims to be a pensioner who doesn't want his pension...:roll:
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NIMBY said:
Therefore Adelson is a scab--and stands for the GOP with his ads--like the ones against Berkley in 2012.
He'll get his when he meets his Maker .
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evil sumbich he is.. paying his "scabs"better and providing better benefits than every other casino in Vegas.... yeah, that sucker will pay!

"screw the workers.. Unions Uber Alles!"




I'm not interested in your partisan commentary...i've heard it all and i know where you stand on everything (which is where the party tells you to stand)
 
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Anti-Union hack for the sake of it--sad .

clownboy said:
Pot, kettle, black. Classic.
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NIMBY said:
Another blatant irrational lie--B.I.L. for short if you keep this up--I've said all along that COLA should be means-tested.
States in far better shape than Illinois--but still in bad shape--have enacted common sense fixes to public pensions.
As long as we have public pensioneers like you--common sense and wisdom will not prevail.

But you do expect the federal gov't to live within its means--just not IL .
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Not I, you're the one crying about how much you got. GIVE IT BACK. Every COLA increase, every extra sick day you were given for doing absolutely nothing, everything, give it back, until you do, you have nothing worth listening to on the topic.
 
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clownboy said:
I am indeed anti-union. I stand with all those who don't want to be forced into a closed shop state. [...]
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Closed shop states no longer exist. Your fail is approaching record-breaking status . . . . .
 
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How many illegals are being employed by Adelson?
Have they brought across Ebola to the high-rollers yet ?

Thrilla said:
evil sumbich he is.. paying his "scabs"better and providing better benefits than every other casino in Vegas.... yeah, that sucker will pay!

"screw the workers.. Unions Uber Alles!"




I'm not interested in your partisan commentary...i've heard it all and i know where you stand on everything (which is where the party tells you to stand)
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Karl said:
Using clownboy's imaginary dictionary, eh? :lamo

Since you guys are so desperate for a win, let's rephrase: people who take a union job in the absence of a strike, and refuse to pay a pro-rata share of union dues, are stealing both from the union as well as their fellow workers (Thrilla, you already agree with this in principle).

Several mainstream dictionaries define such people as scabs, a term which can also be used to describe strike-breakers and picket-line crossers.

There -- you guys no long have a dictionary to hide behind :mrgreen:
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if no union representation is present, there can be no scabs.

at adelsons properties, there is no union, there are no strikes, there are no picket lines... hence, there are no scabs.

it's a very easy concept.
 
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ChezC3 said:
Negotiate for yourself based on where organize labor sets that scale... You don't live in a vacuum...
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I don't need or want a union. I have a right to work and without the middleman. Living in a vacuum has nothing to do with this.
 
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I will when I help put a GOP-type amendment on the ballot in 2018 to save our public pensions.
You're welcome in advance since I know just the GOP pols to do this .

ChezC3 said:
Not I, you're the one crying about how much you got. GIVE IT BACK. Every COLA increase, every extra sick day you were given for doing absolutely nothing, everything, give it back, until you do, you have nothing worth listening to on the topic.
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Just as the 9-YO miners had a right to work and without middlemen.
The ones with missing fingers and toes.
Before McKinley was assassinated and TR saved the Nation from the Gilded/Elite GOP age.

TR the progress--ive .

clownboy said:
I don't need or want a union. I have a right to work and without the middleman. Living in a vacuum has nothing to do with this.
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Thrilla said:
[...] i know this is hard to understand for the radical unionistas around here but.... "non-union" does NOT equal "scab". [...]
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In the midst of overwhelming unionization -- which you described in your previous post -- it does. If every shop on the strip is unionized except Adelson's (which is essentially what you described), then he's running a scab shop by definition. Now I know you guys don't believe the mainstream dictionaries, but your retreat into an alternate reality is not my problem.

All your other rationalizations are irrelevant when it comes to proper use of the English language... and if some want to invent their own language, then conversation with them is impossible (at least until they document it for translation, but it appears to be fluid).
 
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clownboy said:
I don't need or want a union. I have a right to work and without the middleman. Living in a vacuum has nothing to do with this.
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Your job and the scale it pays is based on the prevailing wage which is predicated on union negotiated contracts in the sector and/or industry which you work.

Inter-conntected we all are.
 
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Thrilla said:
you are babbling again.
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Did you miss the quarantine at McCarran?
As far as yer GOP is concerned, it's only a matter of time before President Ebola hits Sin City .
 
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NIMBY said:
I will when I help put a GOP-type amendment on the ballot in 2018 to save our public pensions.
You're welcome in advance since I know just the GOP pols to do this .
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GIVE IT BACK.

Until then, we got nothing to say.
 
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Karl said:
Using clownboy's imaginary dictionary, eh? :lamo

Since you guys are so desperate for a win, let's rephrase: people who take a union job in the absence of a strike, and refuse to pay a pro-rata share of union dues, are stealing both from the union as well as their fellow workers (Thrilla, you already agree with this in principle).

Several mainstream dictionaries define such people as scabs, a term which can also be used to describe strike-breakers and picket-line crossers.

There -- you guys no long have a dictionary to hide behind :mrgreen:
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Lovely, your rephrase is no more correct. In fact, it is the union who is stealing. Again, by collective bargaining law the union must ask more than what it is after in the negotiations and management must offer less than it is willing to give. This rarely results in anything but a loss for those employees, union and non.

So not only are all employees prevented from receiving the most management is can offer, but this unnecessary middleman is also fleecing the union employees of dues.
 
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