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‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers[W:702:1041]

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ChezC3 said:
Nor does it stand the test of reality as has been shown by what the State of IL is trying to do to its pensioners...
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Conservative pensioneers like you in my state are a selfish lot who are part of the problem. The conditions set forth by our Constitution in 1971 have not been met--thus making your and my COLA null and void. Just wait until GOP turds get ahold of yer pension .
 
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Thrilla said:
you guys act like most of the union dues goes towards negotiating contracts and other representational services..... well, they don't..... less than 30% of member dues goes to representation,.
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Well, you're wrong again. Dues go to the local to pay the salaries of business agents, office people, building costs and other expenses. There is a per capita of usually $3 or so per member that will go to the international. Sometimes that cost is higher, it depends on the structure and size of teh union. All of the local costs are born by the local including strke funds; money paid to those who choose to go out. Each local must be self supporting or the international can close a local and merge the members with another.
 
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sangha said:
No link, huh?
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Read the post again and follow the instructions in the very first sentence. Not so difficult that you require this much help.
 
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clownboy said:
Read the post again and follow the instructions in the very first sentence. Not so difficult that you require this much help.
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Still no link, huh?
 
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Thrilla said:
no way, i have ever been on a picket line.... I don't join unions, as a rule

and no, those scabs are not "stealing" ... you walked away from that job voluntarily, they stepped in to do the job when you refused to.

jobs don't do themselves... someone has to get it done... if not by you, then by someone else.

as far as i'm concerned... you gave your job away voluntarily, and they accepted it....that's not "stealing" ,that's ..."gifting"
I have sympathy for your grievances, but not for you walking off the job or the consequences that followed.... you brought them on yourself if you went on strike.
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Yeah, that's the thinking of a scab: just steal what you can't get by any other means.
 
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clownboy said:
The same can be said for you, unless you're admitting that you really didn't understand what was posted, and it was so simple and clear I don't think you really want to admit that. I never claimed it was deep, in fact just the opposite, so simple anyone could get it.

And no, I don't mean to insult you, you are doing that for yourself. I OTOH believed you were playing a simple game of false misunderstanding thinking you to be bright enough to grasp a simple statement.
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Still no rebuttal to your insult?
 
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Thrilla said:
[...] nor are adelsons workers "scabs" [...] adelsons properties are non-union (right to work,actually)..every other property is overwhelmingly union.
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Your story contradicts your claim.
 
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Hard Truth said:
The argument that we don't need unions because we can trust the government to protect workers doesn't sound consistent with your libertarianism. In my view, the temptation to exploit workers is so strong that we need both government and organized labor protection.
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I'm sorry my ideological impurity offends you... i'm ok with it. though, so i probably won't change.;)
( I'm a libertarian, not an anarchist)

I'm not opposed to private sector unions, folks are free to join if they so choose.... i am, however, opposed to forcing people under their thumb, i'm opposed to unions harassing, intimidating, or shaming those who elect not to join ( i'm a big fan of freedom of association)...I'm opposed to them extorting hard earned monies that do not go directly to represented the workers , as well.
unions, should be compensated for any work they do on behalf of an employee though...I have zero problem with that
political expenditures, overhead, and other non-nonrepresentational expenditures should be on the backs of members alone, though

the only unionization i'm opposed to is public sector unionization... private sector workers, well ,I won't oppose them if joining or creating any association they have their hearts set on.
 
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rabbitcaebannog said:
Still no rebuttal to your insult?
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Clownboy is a well-known anti-Union hack who enjoys the fruits of other's labors .
 
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NIMBY said:
Clownboy is a well-known anti-Union hack who enjoys the fruits of other's labors .
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This thread however, is not about clownboy.
 
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Thrilla said:
I'm sorry my ideological impurity offends you... i'm ok with it. though, so i probably won't change.;)
( I'm a libertarian, not an anarchist)
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No--yer a GOP like so many on this website running from their brand and past votes .
 
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NIMBY said:
So now Meister stoops to calling me "son" with his neverending moronic nonsense.
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You have GOT to be kidding here...You just came off a stretch calling those that disagree with you every name in the book, including racists...Wuss!

Numbers diminshed when Reagan taught the Nation they could have something for nothing--the 18 trillion debt.
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Stick to one topic at a time...That way you can be corrected properly.

And you will be back to working weekends--with lower pay back to that of women--and no pensions as before FDR and TR.
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Union membership in the US is at a mere 7%...I guess the people have made their choice.

Good thing I'm a retired Chemistry/Physics/Math teacher who actually did a great job for 34 years and 6 more in retirement--sonny .
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Too bad Math scores for the time you taught dropped...I guess you didn't do a true union job right?
 
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NIMBY said:
No--yer a GOP like so many on this website running from their brand and past votes .
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Like you claiming your a Moderate? hahahaha!
 
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It's not about you doing drive-bys either Ockham.
Ockham said:
This thread however, is not about clownboy.
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Got anything of anti-Union flavor to offer besides posting on me when you see someone is out of their league .
 
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NIMBY said:
It's not about you doing drive-bys eityher Ockham.


Got anything of anti-Union flavor to offer besides posting on me when you see someone is out of their league .
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I've posted in this thread long before you decided to make personal accusations and hyperbole. This thread isn't about me either - is it so difficult to discuss the topic ?
 
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j-mac said:
Like you claiming your a Moderate? hahahaha!
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I was speaking to Thrilla--drive-by boy--
you wouldn't know a real conservative from yer land of secession and right-to-work-for-far-less would you j-mac ?
 
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And what have you added to the topic besides yer usual snarky remarks ?
Ockham said:
I've posted in this thread long before you decided to make personal accusations and hyperbole. This thread isn't about me either - is it so difficult to discuss the topic ?
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Hard Truth said:
I don't like to stoop down to the low level of our oppressors unless absolutely necessary.
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This is one for instance where the High Ground doesn't give you an advantage...

"I was not the one to invent lies: they were created in a society divided by class and each of us inherited lies when we were born. It is not by refusing to lie that we will abolish lies: it is by eradicating class by any means necessary" -- Sartre


"We declare our right on this earth to be a man, to be a human being, to be respected as a human being, to be given the rights of a human being in this society, on this earth, in this day, which we intend to bring into existence by any means necessary." -- Malcolm X
 
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NIMBY said:
Conservative pensioneers like you in my state are a selfish lot who are part of the problem. The conditions set forth by our Constitution in 1971 have not been met--thus making your and my COLA null and void. Just wait until GOP turds get ahold of yer pension .
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Shhh...
 
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j-mac said:
You have GOT to be kidding here...You just came off a stretch calling those that disagree with you every name in the book, including racists...Wuss!
Stick to one topic at a time...That way you can be corrected properly.
Union membership in the US is at a mere 7%...I guess the people have made their choice.
Too bad Math scores for the time you taught dropped...I guess you didn't do a true union job right?
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And in all of this mornic nonsense and personal attack from j-mac who just showed up on the screen with drive-bys--
as is his MO in showing up late to the party and lying about what people say--
not once did he discuss the OP--a con job on this thread .
 
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NIMBY said:
You mean the Unions that built Vegas where I am right now?
Which has now turned into a scab town with some folks like Adelson ?
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Vegas was the kind of business you can sell.
 
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