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‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers[W:702:1041]

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Karl said:
I'm sorry that #435 and #439 was over you guys' heads, but that's not my problem, and others who did understand it shouldn't have to suffer thru an explanation. Have a nice day :2wave:
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Show where my post was wrong, it looks spot on after reading your 2 posts.

I get it.
 
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jet57 said:
They're being weak and cowardly: they take all of the salary and benefits without putting in what it takes to get them anad keep them. They are riding on the backs of the union members; it's deplorable.
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No they're not being weak or cowardly. They are probably harder workers than those that hide behind the union label.
 
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Meister said:
No they're not being weak or cowardly. They are probably harder workers than those that hide behind the union label.
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That is an empty assertion made by someone who hasn't an incling of what he's talking about but must say something bad about unions.
 
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jet57 said:
That is an empty assertion made by someone who hasn't an incling of what he's talking about but must say something bad about unions.
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That's pretty much describes the OP and all the posts from right wingers in this thread, which is nothing more than an excuse for the right to "get their hate on" and direct it at unions
 
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jet57 said:
That is an empty assertion made by someone who hasn't an incling of what he's talking about but must say something bad about unions.
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Dude, I was a union member, and saw with my own eyes. A lot of the members did things
worthy of firing and were protected by the union and kept their job. I've seen just how lazy
some could be and still get paid the same as those who excelled. So please don't pull the
"I don't know" crap.
 
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sangha said:
You keep lecturing about what constitutes proper debate yet you demonstrate very little of it. Instead, your posts have been predominantly focused on judging other posters tactics with little substance concerning the issue and moaning about "insulting/demeaning other participants" in a post that does nothing but that.

Maybe someday you'll contribute an actual argument in support of the OP.
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No, while your imagination might lead you to really believe that idiotic spew? The big problem with your imagination is that it is not very creative. Unless of course you really imagine referring to post and comments that I've never made is clever. Looks like the direct opposite to anyone literate though. Might want to check that WiFi connection or set up a booster on top of that bridge. Maybe you should buy some lens wipes too. ;)
 
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Good thing so many of these non-union folks in BLUE states work in an area with Union shops.
They keep forgetting why their pay and working conditions are so good--since the the nonunion shops need to attract workers.
Not so in right-to-work-for-much-less states .

sangha said:
You keep lecturing about what constitutes proper debate yet you demonstrate very little of it. Instead, your posts have been predominantly focused on judging other posters tactics with little substance concerning the issue and moaning about "insulting/demeaning other participants" in a post that does nothing but that.

Maybe someday you'll contribute an actual argument in support of the OP.
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Great King Rat said:
No, while your imagination might lead you to really believe that idiotic spew? The big problem with your imagination is that it is not very creative. Unless of course you really imagine referring to post and comments that I've never made is clever. Looks like the direct opposite to anyone literate though. Might want to check that WiFi connection or set up a booster on top of that bridge. Maybe you should buy some lens wipes too. ;)
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You've got a long way to go before you live UP to your slightly liberal lean with the spew I just wasted my time reading from you .
 
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Empty rhetoric that can never be proven.
Do give up your weekends earned for you by the blood, sweat and tears of years gone by due to yer Union brothers and sisters.
Reagan's voodoo economics and "I hate taxes" meme have ruined my Nation and given your children an 18 trillion dollar legacy .

Meister said:
Dude, I was a union member, and saw with my own eyes. A lot of the members did things
worthy of firing and were protected by the union and kept their job. I've seen just how lazy
some could be and still get paid the same as those who excelled. So please don't pull the
"I don't know" crap.
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NIMBY said:
Good thing so many of these non-union folks in BLUE states work in an area with Union shops.
They keep forgetting why their pay and working conditions are so good--since the the nonunion shops need to attract workers.
Not so in right-to-work-for-much-less states .
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Our government has plenty of regulation to protect the workroom floor.
IMO the unions and horse and buggy are very simular, they had their place
in American history, but their time has come and gone.
 
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NIMBY said:
You've got a long way to go before you live UP to your slightly liberal lean with the spew I just wasted my time reading from you .
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Seriously, you guys run to PM to whine to each other you need someone to go take up for each other? Ya'll got a name for your little group? Something about acting a stooge in numbers of three? Or is there a fourth, a Shemp waiting for a PM too? I've got the same offer for you as Sangha and Karl. Accuse me of your shtick as much as you want, hell keep attacking me for daring to spot obvious baits too. I'll just laugh and utilize the proper method for dealing with those who lecture about their own game. Won't be my problem to deal with. Don't like that I'm like plenty of others around here and can spot stink bait? Whine some more, either way you'll just have to deal with it.
 
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sangha said:
That's pretty much describes the OP and all the posts from right wingers in this thread, which is nothing more than an excuse for the right to "get their hate on" and direct it at unions
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Yeah, very well said. That is pretty much why threads like this are useless. I post in them so that onlookers can have some factual and experienced opinion to compare with the unexperienced hyperbolic vitriol.
 
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Meister said:
Dude, I was a union member, and saw with my own eyes. A lot of the members did things
worthy of firing and were protected by the union and kept their job. I've seen just how lazy
some could be and still get paid the same as those who excelled. So please don't pull the
"I don't know" crap.
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So, prove to me that you know what you're talking about. So far, you've made just another baseless assertion.

I was a Teamster for 30 years and a shop steward for 18 of those years. I worked the neredowells and they were either thrown back into the hiring hall or they were "warning lettered" out of their jobs: three on the same subject in 6 months means instant termination.
 
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Meister said:
Dude, I was a union member [...]
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It's the internet -- you can be whatever you want to be :)
 
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Meister said:
[...] IMO the unions and horse and buggy are very simular, they had their place in American history, but their time has come and gone.
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Just like the 2nd Amendment, eh? :mrgreen:
 
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sangha said:
Maybe someday you'll contribute an actual argument in support of the OP.
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You saying that is absolutely hilarious!

:lamo
 
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NIMBY said:
Empty rhetoric that can never be proven.
Do give up your weekends earned for you by the blood, sweat and tears of years gone by due to yer Union brothers and sisters.
Reagan's voodoo economics and "I hate taxes" meme have ruined my Nation and given your children an 18 trillion dollar legacy .
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Dont forget; if he's got the years in he'll draw his pension with a smile and he'll aslo draw that socialist social security from socialist big gubment.
 
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Boy, reading the pro union hacks in here, you'd think that Union membership was really something, and that people were clamoring to join them...Instead, as always with progressive arguments, the opposite of what they spew is often true.
 
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jet57 said:
So, prove to me that you know what you're talking about. So far, you've made just another baseless assertion.

I was a Teamster for 30 years and a shop steward for 18 of those years. I worked the neredowells and they were either thrown back into the hiring hall or they were "warning lettered" out of their jobs: three on the same subject in 6 months means instant termination.
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Teamsters eh?...... I made a great deal of money repairing the damage Teamster drivers did to company equipment that was being used by scabs while a strike was going on....

the perpetrators were even so nice as to give me a heads up to what damage they did, so I could make sure to bring the proper parts/supplies. ( mostly cut airlines /electrical cords, and a quite few slashed tires)

yeah, the Teamsters, such a great bunch of guys :lol:

as for the topic, it's wrong an inappropriate to publish the list....as a few of you have proven, it's all about intimidation and/or shaming the non-union workers (who are not harming you in any shape form or fashion).
if i were named on that list, i would sue the union for using my name without permission..... i might win, i might lose... but those wasting those hard won union dues on lawyers is just as good as any other purpose they go for.
 
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Now that they've given you everything you need as a rollover in non-union shops.
How long do you think it will take the GOP to depress your wages, benefits and working conditions when they get back in power ?

Meister said:
Our government has plenty of regulation to protect the workroom floor.
IMO the unions and horse and buggy are very simular, they had their place
in American history, but their time has come and gone.
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j-mac said:
Boy, reading the pro union hacks in here
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and the non-union hacks as well .
 
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Karl said:
Just like the 2nd Amendment, eh? :mrgreen:
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Did you seriously just compare an amendment to the Constitution to labor laws? Wow! Just when I thought I'd seen every for of idiocy that the left can vomit on their keyboards, someone comes along to lower the bar even further. Are you going to compare the sacrifice our troops made defeating the Nazi regime in WW2 to the union leaders of old next? :roll:
 
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jet57 said:
Dont forget; if he's got the years in he'll draw his pension with a smile
and he'll aslo draw that socialist social security from socialist big gubment.
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And not have paid his dues to negotiate the contracts to do it.
There's a word for those kind of people.

It's simply more of the Reagan gimme attitude without having to pay the taxes to cover expenses--Sen. Dole calls it his greatest mistake .
 
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Thrilla said:
Teamsters eh?...... I made a great deal of money repairing the damage Teamster drivers did to company equipment that was being used by scabs while a strike was going on....

the perpetrators were even so nice as to give me a heads up to what damage they did, so I could make sure to bring the proper parts/supplies. ( mostly cut airlines /electrical cords, and a quite few slashed tires)

yeah, the Teamsters, such a great bunch of guys :lol:

as for the topic, it's wrong an inappropriate to publish the list....as a few of you have proven, it's all about intimidation and/or shaming the non-union workers (who are not harming you in any shape form or fashion).
if i were named on that list, i would sue the union for using my name without permission..... i might win, i might lose... but those wasting those hard won union dues on lawyers is just as good as any other purpose they go for.
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A scab is like someone coming into youtr house anad stealing food out of your refridgerator and freezer as well as stealing your money. If their weren't such deplorable people in the world, contracts would be settled and scabs woudn't exist. It's when mean spirited interlopers jump into something that's none of their business and then short circut their own abilities to get decent wages anad benefits all the while cutting the throats of those who are in the fight for such wages and benefits that guys get pissed off.

And they should get pissed off. What would you do when someone with bad intent rushed your house to steal from you?
 
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