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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

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    No corporations should get special tax breaks

    What One gets, they all should get

    The exact same rules should apply to all

    I don't care if they are in alternate energy, oil, agriculture, or pharmaceuticals

    If corporation x gets credit, them so do all the others
    Or we could go true free market and give NONE of them credit and let the market decide.
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

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    typical liberal rot. Democrats pander to working people but really don't help them.
    I can agree with this somewhat... in that it appears to me that 99% of the republicans and over 50% of the dems are fishing for the same campaign funding from the same corporate powerhouses.
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    riiight. In the face of republican corporate butt buddies boldy saying how they want to abolish minimum wage and overtime and the like... I'd say we need unions pretty badly.
    Unions contribute to higher unemployment, and for the rest of us they raise prices and discourage competition-thats not good for the consumer nor is it good for innovation. At the same time, per capital income has risen over the last several decades almost linearly, but unions are dying-that suggests an inverse correlation.

    What it is-is an IGM mentality, comparable to european entitlements. Its a good thing unions are dying out-they no longer serve anyone but themselves-and this thuggery is actually a good thing-it reminds us why we dont need unions.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    (meanwhile, countless taxpayer dollars have been spent on public school anti-bullying campaigns)
    Incrementally, and always under the guise of "fairness", "equality", and "social justice", the US Constitution has been deceitfully interpreted in ways that remove all limitations on central authority...and place them on the people.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Unions contribute to higher unemployment,
    right wing lie #1

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    and for the rest of us they raise prices and discourage competition
    right wing lie #2

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    -thats not good for the consumer nor is it good for innovation. At the same time, per capital income has risen over the last several decades almost linearly, but unions are dying-that suggests an inverse correlation.
    Except, adjusted for inflation, middle class income has collapsed with the unions' collapse... go figure.

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    What it is-is an IGM mentality, comparable to european entitlements. Its a good thing unions are dying out-they no longer serve anyone but themselves
    right wing lie #3

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    -and this thuggery is actually a good thing-it reminds us why we dont need unions.
    add in some right wing bs propaganda flair for effect... aaaaannnnnnd scene!
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Let us all know when yer ready to go back to pre-TR days when corporations were getting away with what current corporations want to do.

    And do volunteer to work weekends for free since that is exactly what Unions got rid of,
    not to mention safety in the workplace, such as at hospitals .

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Unions contribute to higher unemployment, and for the rest of us they raise prices and discourage competition-thats not good for the consumer nor is it good for innovation. At the same time, per capital income has risen over the last several decades almost linearly, but unions are dying-that suggests an inverse correlation.

    What it is-is an IGM mentality, comparable to european entitlements. Its a good thing unions are dying out-they no longer serve anyone but themselves-and this thuggery is actually a good thing-it reminds us why we dont need unions.
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    right wing lie #1



    right wing lie #2



    Except, adjusted for inflation, middle class income has collapsed with the unions' collapse... go figure.



    right wing lie #3



    add in some right wing bs propaganda flair for effect... aaaaannnnnnd scene!
    Your showboating does not change the facts bud. Facts, are stubborn things.



    So what we see is that as union membership has declined since the mid 50's, per capita income (adjusted for inflation) has risen.
    Im not suggesting causation, just correlation-but thats good enough to shoot down your weak assertions.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Let us all know when yer ready to go back to pre-TR days when corporations were getting away with what current corporations want to do.

    And do volunteer to work weekends for free since that is exactly what Unions got rid of,
    not to mention safety in the workplace, such as at hospitals .
    I wonder if some day that you might realize being a statist and govt supplicant isn't always the best thing. Remember the Sam Adams quote?

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Your showboating does not change the facts bud. Facts, are stubborn things.



    So what we see is that as union membership has declined since the mid 50's, per capita income (adjusted for inflation) has risen.
    Im not suggesting causation, just correlation-but thats good enough to shoot down your weak assertions.
    Yeppers... just as I thought. just comparing today's $ against 1950's dollar and claiming a victory because you don't understand inflation or dollar strength. Here's the truth. Don't let it hurt too bad...

    unionmembershipratesweb-01.jpg

    And you were right not claim causation because you know you damn well can't. Just a weak assed attempt to make the appearance of causation with a BS graph that doesn't mean anything because it's metrics are completely flawed.

    Better luck next time.
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Yeppers... just as I thought. just comparing today's $ against 1950's dollar and claiming a victory because you don't understand inflation or dollar strength. Here's the truth. Don't let it hurt too bad...

    unionmembershipratesweb-01.jpg

    And you were right not claim causation because you know you damn well can't. Just a weak assed attempt to make the appearance of causation with a BS graph that doesn't mean anything because it's metrics are completely flawed.
    Again, the facts dont reflect your assertion. "Middle class share of aggregate income"? How about we compare actual per capita income and remove the marxist angle from your claims.

    Per capita, Americans continue to make more, and they do it despite unions.
    On the flip side, even with a decrease in unions, per capital income is not dropping.

    In addition, if you note the wiki source I provided-the numbers are corrected for inflation via Census data for 2011. All you had to do was read the axis label to see this.

    This is why facts are stubborn.

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