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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Also, why are the heads of those unions visiting the White House so often?

    What could they possibly be discussing?
    Hmmm. ALEC?

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    yeah, i hear the unions and their supporters say that all the time.....it's primarily a scare tactic " if we don't represent you, they'll cut your pay and make your 8 year old son work in the mines", but there is some effect on other wages, to be sure... to what extent?... who knows?
    I think they have a very real hand in labor shortages in conjunction with their contracts , though... which is a fine way to artificially inflate wages, if you're into manipulating markets.

    union, today, are primarily in the public sector( govt, and govt contractors)... that's their stronghold....they can't negotiate wages/benefits in govt (thank god)... they are utterly useless in the very "industry" they have a stranglehold on.

    anymore, i'm starting to believe the primary purpose of the unions is self preservation, followed by electing Democrats to office, followed by creating huge non-taxable slush funds .... workers come in around #10 or #12 ( the behavior and arguments of the pro-unionists around here attest to that fact)
    Unions need to survive to do their work, the corporations and Republicans want to destroy them. Political work by union is essential for effectively protecting workers rights.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The objective of right to work is to allow small business operators to operate their business, without being forced to join a union.

    e.g. if you're an electrician and you want to start your own business--one man operation--you don't have to join a union and rightfully so.
    Where did you get this information from? Please give me your evidence.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The objective of right to work is to allow small business operators to operate their business, without being forced to join a union. [...]
    Since no one can be forced to join a union in non right-to-work states your argument fails.

    We all know what the objective of right-to-work laws are to deprive unions of money (the agency fee), and, I suspect, to have a snowball effect (prompt current union employees to renounce their membership so that they, too, can 'free ride' to the extend that the union collapses and goes out of business). I'm sure we can all agree that this is a political goal (union elimination, to the detriment of Democrats), rather than any actual concern about the workers.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Unions vs. Rich Businessmen: Who Funds the Democrats? | Mother Jones

    All the while, labor union PAC contributions hovered between $59 million and $73 million, typically with 90 percent or more of those dollars supporting Democrats each election cycle, according to the Center's research.




    Unions fuel Democratic Party financially | The Daily Caller
    Union money spent on political campaigns and advocacy represents the interests of millions of workers. Corporate money spent on political campaigns and advocacy represents the interests of a few thousand people at the top who are already rich and powerful.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Look at the wages and working conditions in the countries that ban labor unions and you'll see what happens when workers are powerless.
    Republicans (the tools of capitalist business) want that to happen. The disempowerment of labor to the benefit of big business is their goal (i.e., it is what they are paid by big business to do).

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Where did you get this information from? Please give me your evidence.
    You don't already know that?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You don't already know that?
    I'll take this as a I'm pulling stuff out of the ether.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Since no one can be forced to join a union in non right-to-work states your argument fails.

    We all know what the objective of right-to-work laws are to deprive unions of money (the agency fee), and, I suspect, to have a snowball effect (prompt current union employees to renounce their membership so that they, too, can 'free ride' to the extend that the union collapses and goes out of business). I'm sure we can all agree that this is a political goal (union elimination, to the detriment of Democrats), rather than any actual concern about the workers.
    In a non-right to work state, an electrician can't get a license w/o joining a union.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    I'll take this as a I'm pulling stuff out of the ether.
    I can't believe you don't already know this.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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