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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Well now this is an entirely different event (different employer, different union, different workers, different state). And you have no evidence that the union was even involved with the letter (they deny it).

    Shouldn't this be a different thread? You are trying to tar the actions of one group with the actions of an entirely different group (in a different state, no less). Is that intellectually honest?
    I was asked to provide evidence of the union posting personal information. I do so and this is your comeback? I see your like minded diversion machine also liked your post. Color me shocked...

    Of course the union is going to deny it, it's what they do. I kind of feel sorry for you and your ilk who have been brainwashed into thinking that this country wouldn't be able to function without fine upstanding organizations like unions (sarcasm intended). I mean they've never done anything sneaky, criminal or morally wrong right?
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    Then why work in a union shop if it's filled with damaging stupidity?
    I've often thought that myself having worked in both a union shop and non union, I've enjoyed non union jobs much more than union jobs.
    I was treated much better and had a better rapport with management. go figure....

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Great King Rat View Post
    Oh you poor dear, is that what you really imagine you did? But of course it is. Of course it is.
    Since you're new, I'll give you a tip: what you are doing is not debating. Now I realize you see others doing the same, but they are not debating either. Debating is a discussion about a topic or an event, not a discussion about people participating in the debate/discussion. I know that to many it is more fun to insult/demean other participants, but from a debate standpoint it is a logical fallacy (failure). FWIW.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    This has been argued and explained so many times I find the tactic of feigned non-understanding a massive fail. Pretty much everyone pays taxes of some sort (sales tax, property tax (even renters), excise tax, FICA, gasoline tax, etc)... but everyone knows that, so why the act?

    And why derail the thread?
    Proving you to post lies isn't derailing, it's entertaining.
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I did not quibble over the title of the article. I refuted the claim that publishing an employee's name and where they can be found is proof of "intimidation"
    That's good of you to refute such a claim.

    IS THAT what you're saying the article is misrepresenting (I can't help but notice you've completely avoided my repeated requests to clarify your statement).

    The bolded line in the article you claimed you had issue with did not claim that there was proof intimidation did happen, it stated that it makes intimidation or harassment EASIER.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by RedAkston View Post
    And you don't have a problem with that?
    I guess you need to have the courage of your convictions. The alternative is that union membership and non-union membership is secret, known only to a select few. Why is that a good thing. Union membership is certainly known to the management, who presumably can harass and intimidate if they are so inclined. You make your bed, you lie in it.
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    The intent is to intimidate. Frankly, the union is encouraging a hostile work environment. Thought unions advocate for the exact opposite.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Your personal insight is irrelevant to the facts at hand, and itself is devoid of provable facts so therefore cannot be evaluated.
    They're VERY relevant given my 5 years in the CWA Trenton Local 1000.

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    I would also caution against confusing comment with discussion/debate. Unless failure is your goal.
    It's not confusing... I've yet to see you post to debate, your posts are to 100% further the far left perspective while ignoring facts. Well... 99%... the other 1% is attacking other posters.
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I did not quibble over the title of the article. I refuted the claim that publishing an employee's name and where they can be found is proof of "intimidation"
    If you don't see that what the union did was intimidation, then you don't see clearly at all. You may now post more diversion and incoherent ramblings.
    Welfare (Food Stamps, WIC, etc...) are not entitlements. They are taxpayer funded handouts and shouldn't be called entitlements at all. Social Security and Veteran's benefits are 'Entitlements' because the people receiving them are entitled to them. They were earned and paid for by the recipients.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Think Holder will appear? Not likely.
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