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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    it would be correct if you said " agency fees are not required in 24 states".
    Isn't that what I said?

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Not all. Many I'm aware of also state that experience, education and other standards need to be taken into consideration.
    Again, no mention of performance? Experience is interpreted as senority, education means the acquisition of a higher degree . Neither is necessarily indicative of a higher productivity level, or a better product.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    reality bites but if American blue collar workers want to have better lifestyles than equally (un)skilled laborers in Korea, India, China, Mexico etc, they have to have better work skills.

    a company that pay 25 bucks for the same labor that its competition pay 5 bucks for is going out of business rather quickly
    Better skills does not equal better pay on a global level. If a person in India agrees to do a high skill job for half the cost, guess who wins and guess who loses.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Better skills does not equal better pay on a global level. If a person in India agrees to do a high skill job for half the cost, guess who wins and guess who loses.
    if he doesn't do the job as well as the American, its his employer who loses

    the fact is-US workers cannot compete against low skilled or semi skilled blue collar or "cubicle bunny" white collar workers. so if American workers want high paying jobs, they have to have hi-tech skills. There is no way around that


    and there is nothing that can escape reality



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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    A slacker in a non-union shop isn't going to be around too long. I won't argue about proof; you're probably right. But perception is often reality, yes?
    It really depends on who the slacker is in many cases. I worked for a bank and many times those who got jobs knew someone in high places. Those that were incompetent were almost always protected due to that fact. Yes, nepotism is alive in union places too.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    Again, no mention of performance? Experience is interpreted as senority, education means the acquisition of a higher degree . Neither is necessarily indicative of a higher productivity level, or a better product.
    I would assume performance would matter.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    if he doesn't do the job as well as the American, its his employer who loses

    the fact is-US workers cannot compete against low skilled or semi skilled blue collar or "cubicle bunny" white collar workers. so if American workers want high paying jobs, they have to have hi-tech skills. There is no way around that


    and there is nothing that can escape reality
    High tech workers will equally take a hit.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    High tech workers will equally take a hit.
    I guess some are gonna be screwed!



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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Isn't that what I said?
    nope...

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    I would assume performance would matter.
    You assume incorrectly. Google any union contract. For starters, try the SEIU contracts in your own community. Teachers, for example. You will find the salaries posted. You will find starter salaries. You will increases for education. You will find inccreases based on longevity. You will not find any mention of performance increases.

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