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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    People who choose do negotiate their own wages and the employers who hire them are simply marketing their skills and labor at market rates, i.e. the price at which someone is willing to sell and the price at which someone is willing to buy. Whether or not that that price is determined by an actual free market or a market dictated by an agent of your choosing is of no consequence

    Why should I as a worker be required to use an agent of your choosing to negotiate for me?
    ....because the agent is negotiating for you.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    reality stacks the deck.
    Well, yes current reality maybe but it doesn't have to be stacked that way.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Well, yes current reality maybe but it doesn't have to be stacked that way.
    I prefer that to the artificial environment caused by government.



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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    The reason that annoys union supporters is that when corporations successfully kill off unions they are able to lower wages and benefits and the workers have no power or ability to take action in response. The unions are largely responsible for the decent pay and benefits offered by non-union shops in a mostly union sector.
    yeah, i hear the unions and their supporters say that all the time.....it's primarily a scare tactic " if we don't represent you, they'll cut your pay and make your 8 year old son work in the mines", but there is some effect on other wages, to be sure... to what extent?... who knows?
    I think they have a very real hand in labor shortages in conjunction with their contracts , though... which is a fine way to artificially inflate wages, if you're into manipulating markets.

    union, today, are primarily in the public sector( govt, and govt contractors)... that's their stronghold....they can't negotiate wages/benefits in govt (thank god)... they are utterly useless in the very "industry" they have a stranglehold on.

    anymore, i'm starting to believe the primary purpose of the unions is self preservation, followed by electing Democrats to office, followed by creating huge non-taxable slush funds .... workers come in around #10 or #12 ( the behavior and arguments of the pro-unionists around here attest to that fact)

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    lefties want unions to be strong because Unions are the major fund source for Democrat politicians
    Don't you ever get tired of this ****?
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    They most certainly are.
    explain how you feel they are hurting union efficiency...

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Don't you ever get tired of this ****?
    I doubt he gets tired of the truth

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I prefer that to the artificial environment caused by government.
    Government is allowing the cards to be stacked that way with interference. It's called trade agreements.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Why a Union?
    Einstein, "science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    ....because the agent is negotiating for you.
    not exactly if he was neogiating for me then he would get me the best deal possible.
    he doesn't he neogiates for everyone so even the guy that takes 2 hour lunches and doesn't do anything the rest
    of the time gets the same wage as i do for busting my butt.

    what is even better is if the guy that sits on his ass and does nothing or as little as possible is there longer than me then i get fired before him if there is a layoff.

    so no the agent isn't negotiating for me.

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