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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    This is called hyperbole.
    its called reality. Liberals constantly see themselves as parents ready to tell ignorant children what is best for them.



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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that is a secondary definition. the most common definition involves people who are hired by the company to break a strike by crossing the picket lines and working. Its the most common way of breaking a strike. The second most common way is called a lock out. and the last way (short of capitulation or compromise) is court action. Lock outs are often used in cases where the company can withstand a shut down for a longer period of time than the workers can be out of work
    These people are harming the union workers.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    its called reality. Liberals constantly see themselves as parents ready to tell ignorant children what is best for them.
    I doubt unions see themselves as parents.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    I was referring to those who work in shops where they get all the same exact benefits of their union counterparts but pay nothing in return. The other members of that group pick up the tab.
    those non-members are still required to pay for representation.... they just don't have to pay full dues. ( they pay agency fees or association fees, which are less than the full member dues)

    it's a myth that non-members don't pay anything.. the whole "free-rider" thing is pretty much a myth

    I don't see why any worker would pay for more than the "agency fees"...paying for your representation is fine, but unions only use a small portion of their revenues for representation... some as little as 10%, some as much as 30%.... the rest goes to overhead, political contributions, gifts , grants, and employees of the union

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    I doubt unions see themselves as parents.
    How many local presidents have you known

    I am talking about often wealthy liberals and academics who whine about "exploitation"



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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    These people are harming the union workers.
    they are doing what they need to do-help themselves. Nothing wrong with that. If unionists won't work, someone else ought to



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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    those non-members are still required to pay for representation.... they just don't have to pay full dues. ( they pay agency fees or association fees, which are less than the full member dues)

    it's a myth that non-members don't pay anything.. the whole "free-rider" thing is pretty much a myth

    I don't see why any worker would pay for more than the "agency fees"...paying for your representation is fine, but unions only use a small portion of their revenues for representation... some as little as 10%, some as much as 30%.... the rest goes to overhead, political contributions, gifts , grants, and employees of the union
    Negotiating higher wages and benefits does come with a cost and depleting money from dues hurts unions politically and that is the true intent.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    they are doing what they need to do-help themselves. Nothing wrong with that. If unionists won't work, someone else ought to
    So, they take the job and are willing to at a lower cost. It does nothing to higher the living standards of workers.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Union workers
    A worker cannot feed off of another worker unless some of the union workers pay goes to the non union worker.

    What exactly is the non union worker taking from the union worker?

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    A worker cannot feed off of another worker unless some of the union workers pay goes to the non union worker.

    What exactly is the non union worker taking from the union worker?
    All the benefits of the union worker without the same costs.

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