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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that's like saying my superior resume hurts other applicants for a job or a seat at a law school

    If you won't work, someone else will. you only hurt yourself by striking especially when labor is mainly a global commodity these days
    There is always someone willing to work for less, especially with a glut of workers. That does not mean workers should be exploited.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    nope....

    non-union workers get nothing from union members..... hell, they have nothing to give
    many on the left believe that a job is something you are entitled to and when someone else is willing to do the job better or at less cost than you do, they have taken something from YOU



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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    nope....

    non-union workers get nothing from union members..... hell, they have nothing to give
    I was referring to those who work in shops where they get all the same exact benefits of their union counterparts but pay nothing in return. The other members of that group pick up the tab.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that's like saying my superior resume hurts other applicants for a job or a seat at a law school

    If you won't work, someone else will. you only hurt yourself by striking especially when labor is mainly a global commodity these days
    exactly.....

    the job has to be done..... if a union workers chooses to leave that job, it doesn't magically do itself....someone will step in to do it.( and they should step in, as it's good for everyone involved)

    unionistas should not be so hard on scabs.... in a very real way, those scabs save the unions jobs ( by doing the job and not having the business close down while the strike is ongoing) while grievances are aired and negotiated.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    wrong again
    Strikebreaker - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    the main definition

    A strikebreaker (sometimes derogatorily called a scab, blackleg, or knobstick) is a person who works despite an ongoing strike. Strikebreakers are usually individuals who are not employed by the company prior to the trade union dispute, but rather hired after or during the strike to keep the organization running.

    my great grandfather, my grandfather and then my father ran a heavy manufacturing business. It was unionized. in 1937 there was a massive strike. My grandfather hired non union workers to keep the company going. There was a picture of my grandfather standing by the gate of the company holding a thompson machine gun to protect the workers from union thugs. BTW FDR made striking against this business illegal a few years later since it was a deemed an "essential wartime industry"

    but the "Scabs" were non union workers
    You posted the definition of 'strikebreaker' to prove you're right about the definition of 'scab'!!!
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    There is always someone willing to work for less, especially with a glut of workers. That does not mean workers should be exploited.
    there are too many laws these days. Minimum wage, etc. the leftwing often believes anyone making less than 100K a year is being exploited.

    is it wrong for someone to offer to work for less in order to get the job

    I go shopping for a car. Joe's cars offers me a car for 35K. I tell the salesman at Dave's Cars what Joe's best offer was. he offers me a car of equivalent value for 32,500. sounds like free contracting to me

    Am I exploiting Dave's cars? or is Dave exploiting Joe's cars?

    Liberals seem to have real issues with adults being able to make adult decisions. then again, if everyone was treated and acted like an adult, many liberal policies would evaporate as useless



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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    wrong again
    Strikebreaker - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    the main definition

    A strikebreaker (sometimes derogatorily called a scab, blackleg, or knobstick) is a person who works despite an ongoing strike. Strikebreakers are usually individuals who are not employed by the company prior to the trade union dispute, but rather hired after or during the strike to keep the organization running.

    my great grandfather, my grandfather and then my father ran a heavy manufacturing business. It was unionized. in 1937 there was a massive strike. My grandfather hired non union workers to keep the company going. There was a picture of my grandfather standing by the gate of the company holding a thompson machine gun to protect the workers from union thugs. BTW FDR made striking against this business illegal a few years later since it was a deemed an "essential wartime industry"

    but the "Scabs" were non union workers
    Your right in that workers who take over union workers jobs are also called scabs. It could be used toward other union members who cross the line too.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You posted the definition of 'strikebreaker' to prove you're right about the definition of 'scab'!!!
    you need to read better. what is the first line of the definition I posted

    A strikebreaker (sometimes derogatorily called a scab,



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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    there are too many laws these days. Minimum wage, etc. the leftwing often believes anyone making less than 100K a year is being exploited.

    is it wrong for someone to offer to work for less in order to get the job

    I go shopping for a car. Joe's cars offers me a car for 35K. I tell the salesman at Dave's Cars what Joe's best offer was. he offers me a car of equivalent value for 32,500. sounds like free contracting to me

    Am I exploiting Dave's cars? or is Dave exploiting Joe's cars?

    Liberals seem to have real issues with adults being able to make adult decisions. then again, if everyone was treated and acted like an adult, many liberal policies would evaporate as useless
    This is called hyperbole.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Your right in that workers who take over union workers jobs are also called scabs. It could be used toward other union members who cross the line too.
    that is a secondary definition. the most common definition involves people who are hired by the company to break a strike by crossing the picket lines and working. Its the most common way of breaking a strike. The second most common way is called a lock out. and the last way (short of capitulation or compromise) is court action. Lock outs are often used in cases where the company can withstand a shut down for a longer period of time than the workers can be out of work



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