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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    You cannot duck that it is the closed shop model you are arguing for. [...]
    Clearly you have no idea what a closed shop even is, even after looking it up on Wikipedia. Have a nice day

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    A scab is like someone coming into youtr house anad stealing food out of your refridgerator and freezer as well as stealing your money. If their weren't such deplorable people in the world, contracts would be settled and scabs woudn't exist. It's when mean spirited interlopers jump into something that's none of their business and then short circut their own abilities to get decent wages anad benefits all the while cutting the throats of those who are in the fight for such wages and benefits that guys get pissed off.

    And they should get pissed off. What would you do when someone with bad intent rushed your house to steal from you?


    You forgot to end that rant with WORKERS OF THE WORLD UNITE



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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    I must agree with you on the use of the word scab for a nonunion shop. If that is their choice, then so be it. It would interesrting to find out about any organizing drives though.
    doesn't matter Fair labour trade act says that unions cannot force people to join the union. even if there is a place of business that has a union people that prefer not to work for the union are still not scabs.

    what the union is doing is illegal and they are creating a hostile work enviroment which is also illegal.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    [...] you calling his workers "scabs" is entirely predicated on the union presence of neighboring properties.... and now you are trying to tell me union presence on other properties doesn't change things?? [...]
    No. That's what you told yourself. I can't compete with the imaginary voices so

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Meister View Post
    NALC branch 1100 for 10 years, shop steward for 2.
    National Association of Letter Carriers. The people who deliver the mail. As opposed to say the APWU

    and then there was my favorite group to deal with-the "National Alliance" which was not a CBU but had status for filing EEOC or representing workers in the USPS. For the most part the NALC was ok but they didn't have much use for LCs who worked too hard and "stole" overtime from the others



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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    I must agree with you on the use of the word scab for a nonunion shop. If that is their choice, then so be it. It would interesrting to find out about any organizing drives though.
    the Culinary union has been protesting out front since the openings (until the courts shut them down recently for blocking public acess)... and there are trying their damnedest to get in the door, but the workers aren't biting.. unions don't have anything to offer ( yet)

    it's really got nothing to do with adelson's beliefs ( he can't keep unions out if the workers want them in)... there is simply no incentive to let them in, the workers are better off than every other property in town.

    he's not the first guy to keep unions at bay by keeping workers happy... he won't be the last.
    unionistas, by all rights, should be happy about this... but for some reason, they get all pissy <shrugs>

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Meister View Post
    To me, unions are a dinosaur.....that should 'splain things to you, son.
    Probably why your numbers are diminishing, another generation or two
    unions will be totally irrelevent.
    they will only remain in government environments where the labor cannot be subcontracted out. AFSCME is one of the worst going



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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    No. That's what you told yourself. I can't compete with the imaginary voices so
    so go ahead and stick to you incorrect argument of those workers being scabs..... I don't mind you being wrong.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Scabs should be harassed and intimidated. It is an affront to every working man out there that you've got people who'll bottom feed and piss on all the work and effort that has gone in to organized labor.

    As I said in an earlier post, The Right to Work For Less crowd's take on this is completely hypocritical. They'd gladly let union busting, employer intimidation, and use of the police to further the ends of the employer but then when not even a fraction of their tactics are used by the other side, they get all indignant, all, --"Why I NEVER?!?!? This must be stopped, those poor people!!"

    I mean get bent, seriously...
    and those who harass them should be arrested, indicted, convicted and jailed and if they get violent, shot and killed. There is not room for such intimidation in the work place. That is why unions ought to die off. especially public sector unions. those are an affront to the tax payer.



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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    doesn't matter Fair labour trade act says that unions cannot force people to join the union. even if there is a place of business that has a union people that prefer not to work for the union are still not scabs.

    what the union is doing is illegal and they are creating a hostile work enviroment which is also illegal.
    What you are describing is the open shop right to work and under those conditions joining is optional. It is however a fact however that non union members in open shops are indeed scabs: they are riding on the backs of the union employees who are fighting for the sacbs by default.
    “The people do no want virtue; but they are the dupes of pretended patriots” : Elbridge Gerry of Mass; Constitutional Convention 1787

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