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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

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    there is no union representing any of his workers....the union has no presence at his properties. [...]
    Take that up with the strawman that told you differently.

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    union presence at other properties does not change this one bit. [...]
    Why would it?
    You've gone Twilight Zone on me... I don't know what you're reading, but it clearly isn't what I've been writing, so have a nice day

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
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    What is described is an agency shop, not a closed shop (clearly union membership is not required). There is no law against an agency shop, which pretty much exists in all states that have not passed Right To Work. You fail again. Astounding . . . .
    You cannot duck that it is the closed shop model you are arguing for. You fail to grasp your own argument. Nor can you argue without failing reality, that closed shops don't exist in practice. For example, just about every port in the US. Just try to get a job, any job at any port without joining the union.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

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    I was speaking to Thrilla--drive-by boy--
    you wouldn't know a real conservative from yer land of secession and right-to-work-for-far-less would you j-mac ?
    Oh, I have no problems spotting conservatives..These days they are in short supply. But with that said, you got some nerve calling someone else "drive-by" anything...
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

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    Take that up with the strawman that told you differently.
    sorry, i'll leave the fallacies to you.. i'll keep sticking to facts.


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    Why would it?
    You've gone Twilight Zone on me... I don't know what you're reading, but it clearly isn't what I've been writing, so have a nice day
    you calling his workers "scabs" is entirely predicated on the union presence of neighboring properties.... and now you are trying to tell me union presence on other properties doesn't change things??

    twilight zone indeed...

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    And in all of this mornic nonsense and personal attack from j-mac who just showed up on the screen with drive-bys--
    as is his MO in showing up late to the party and lying about what people say--
    not once did he discuss the OP--a con job on this thread .
    What I "lie" about whiner?
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

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    You've got a long way to go before you live UP to your slightly liberal lean with the spew I just wasted my time reading from you .



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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    there is no union representing any of his workers....the union has no presence at his properties.
    union presence at other properties does not change this one bit.


    speaking of alternate reality... by your definition, every non-union worker in the entire Las Vegas valley is a "scab"....hell, every non-union worker in the country can be a "scab" to you.


    it's ok, you are not the first unionista I've come across that has disdain for the workers....
    I must agree with you on the use of the word scab for a nonunion shop. If that is their choice, then so be it. It would interesrting to find out about any organizing drives though.
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

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    Just like the 2nd Amendment, eh?
    left wing extremists are why we need a 2nd Amendment. Global labor environments are what makes unions obsolete



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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    if you are going to talk ****, at least be clear about it... i don't know what you are referring to.
    As I noted above, you're quoting my posts but talking about different stuff. You made a post about stealing, I responded to that post talking about stealing (with the pertinent sections in bold no less), and you replied to that post by talking about scabs and Adelson. You've lost me, bro. Maybe you just can't understand what I'm writing... that's cool, but it makes it useless to continue.

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    [...] and no, those scabs are not "stealing" ... you walked away from that job voluntarily, they stepped in to do the job when you refused to. [...]
    Using clownboy's imaginary dictionary, eh? ... Since you guys are so desperate for a win, let's rephrase: people who take a union job in the absence of a strike, and refuse to pay a pro-rata share of union dues, are stealing both from the union as well as their fellow workers (Thrilla, you already agree with this in principle).

    Several mainstream dictionaries define such people as scabs, a term which can also be used to describe strike-breakers and picket-line crossers. There -- you guys no long have a dictionary to hide behind
    if no union representation is present, there can be no scabs. at adelsons properties, there is no union, there are no strikes, there are no picket lines... hence, there are no scabs. it's a very easy concept.
    See? In your last post you abandoned the stealing issue completely and went off on scabs and Adelson. So, I give up -- it's too much work to keep multi-quoting the entire conversation so that the person I'm addressing doesn't get lost.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    You may create your own dictionary with its own meanings if you like (this does seem to be a favorite conservative pastime), but no one will think you have a clue
    yep i know what ia scab is and the only person making up definitions here is you.
    people that work for a company and do not belong to the union are not scabs.

    scabs which is only a term unions use to degrade people wanting to work have to cross a picket line.
    since these people don't cross a picket line they are not scabs not that they are scabs anyway.

    can't believe you hate working people so much i thought liberals were suppose to be for working people.
    the hypocrasy can't be contained.

    come back when you can actually backup that worker harassment is legal. ol yea it isn't and in fact is a fireable offense.

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