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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Ummm....

    A persons name is considered Personally Identifiable Information. I'm pretty sure what department of a business you work in would also qualify as PII
    I guess these folks don't work in environments important enough to get annual PII training.
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    As unions continue to lose support with workers, they will continue to try and hold tighter on what little they have left. Such strong arm tactics aren't unusual - years ago when I was a CWA shop steward [....]
    Your unsubstantiated claims have nothing to do with the OP, but I think we can all see what's going on here -- one issue is being used as a vehicle to pile on other unrelated/unsubstantiated issues in order to make it (the OP) look worse than it is, and to attack unions in general.

    So, since it appears that none of the outraged are interested in a continued discussion of the event in the OP on its own merits I think we can assume it is not as grievous as they claimed.

    Further, if a union attack thread is desired then I would suggest one with that express purpose be created, outlining all these various points up front -- and with proper sourcing of the allegations.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    By pointing out misleading info contained in the article, I *am* addressing the article.



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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    How is anyone supposed to know who is and who isn't union member ?

    If a non-union employee is being disciplined by management does he or she still get union representation at the meeting if they choose ?

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    [...] There has always been a violent undertone to such tactics which is why picket crosser's are called scabs in the first place. [...]
    Would you be willing to explain your claim that the term "scab" has a violent undertone?

    I will concede that it is not complimentary, and is indeed derogatory, but I'd be interested to see you try to explain the violence component. Based on experience, I will not be holding my breath

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Your unsubstantiated claims have nothing to do with the OP, but I think we can all see what's going on here -- one issue is being used as a vehicle to pile on other unrelated/unsubstantiated issues in order to make it (the OP) look worse than it is, and to attack unions in general.
    What's "going on here" is me commenting on the OP and providing personal insight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    So, since it appears that none of the outraged are interested in a continued discussion of the event in the OP on its own merits I think we can assume it is not as grievous as they claimed.
    Do whatever makes you feel better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Further, if a union attack thread is desired then I would suggest one with that express purpose be created, outlining all these various points up front -- and with proper sourcing of the allegations.
    Ask Red if a union attack thread is desired. Isn't it true that's where all union threads end up because most unions don't give a **** about the workers, just furthering the unions political and monetary gains?
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    By taking advantage of the protections and benefits unions offer all employees without paying for them.

    Scabs are parasites.
    Actually, when I worked as a union member I saw a lot of union members who were the parasites. They were lazy asses who had to have others help finish their work and still got paid as much as those that busted their asses. Yup, parasites....

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    This union also tells people the names of their officers and where and when they can be found

    E-MAIL PAGE

    Obviously, they want union members to intimidate their officers
    Not sure is serious.
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by RedAkston View Post
    [...] Really? I have an aunt who is poor and disabled. She hasn't paid taxes in years. Do you wish to retract your statement or are you going to stick with the lie?
    This has been argued and explained so many times I find the tactic of feigned non-understanding a massive fail. Pretty much everyone pays taxes of some sort (sales tax, property tax (even renters), excise tax, FICA, gasoline tax, etc)... but everyone knows that, so why the act?

    And why derail the thread?

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