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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, they are not. In fact in many cases they are less than what the company was willing to do in the first place. That's the idiocy of collective bargaining law. Labor must ask for more than they want and management must offer less than they are willing to provide. All this so they will bargain and hopefully strike a middle ground. Unfortunately real life doesn't operate like that.
    Is your contention that union members make less? Proof please.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Meister View Post
    Dude, I was a union member, and saw with my own eyes. A lot of the members did things
    worthy of firing and were protected by the union and kept their job. I've seen just how lazy
    some could be and still get paid the same as those who excelled. So please don't pull the
    "I don't know" crap.
    Thanks for the anecdote. I have one also. I have been a union worker for over 18 years and never seen any of that.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    The grade-school insult of calling sir Nimby an emotional adolescent by Meister--




    Thanks to Unions--
    and the great Republican Progress--ive President Theodore Roosevelt.

    without him, the Elite GOP wing would still have 9-YO working mines with missing fingers and toes -
    oh dear god...

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    The company pays for safety training and arbitration.
    So does the union
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    The company never did this before Unions came along and you know it.
    Neither did they give weekends off--or paid vacations and sick leave--and all the other goodies you folks expect your Union bros and sisters to pay.
    Like clean air--clean water--clean land--though yer GOP team is doing its damndest to ruin the Earth for yer kids .
    Actually, that's not true at all. Look up the history of Kellogg. And it was a GOP POTUS and congress that passed the first clean air act.

    Air Pollution Control Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Is your contention that union members make less? Proof please.
    Read for comprehension. That's not what I said. YOU quoted the post, now read it.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    well, nearly everything the pro-unionists use as evidence that Unions are the bees-knees ( weekends, 40 hr workweek, safe work environment etc) has been codified into law or regulation.... so much of what unions were once good at has already been co-opted by government.)
    And what government has given, government can take away. Many a state's Blue laws are going by the way side. As business has more sway with pushing through legislation or taking it away, you will see more worker's rights taken away.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Other definitions [of "scab"] aren't quite so broad and some are changed in colloquial usage. But you've already been informed of and shown that. [...]
    If I had, then you would have quoted it. So, fail #1.

    And this is the third odd thing that keeps popping up in conservatives' arguments -- their insistence on creating their own dictionary on the fly (which never seems to be published, by the way). Or, as sangha described it, daffynitions Fail #2.

    But just to make the pwning complete (you guys really make this too easy), let's look at another random (Googled) definition from a mainstream dictionary (or are mainstream dictionaries, like mainstream media, all part of the vast left wing conspiracy?):

    scab

    3b (1) : a worker who refuses to join a labor union (2) : a union member who refuses to strike or returns to work before a strike has ended (3) : a worker who accepts employment or replaces a union worker during a strike (4) : one who works for less than union wages or on nonunion terms

    Scab - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

    Fail #3. How do you guys stand all the fail?

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Read for comprehension. That's not what I said. YOU quoted the post, now read it.
    I see. You don't want to defend your position. I don't blame you.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    If I had, then you would have quoted it. So, fail #1.

    And this is the third odd thing that keeps popping up in conservatives' arguments -- their insistence on creating their own dictionary on the fly (which never seems to be published, by the way). Or, as sangha described it, daffynitions Fail #2.

    But just to make the pwning complete (you guys really make this too easy), let's look at another random (Googled) definition from a mainstream dictionary (or are mainstream dictionaries all part of the vast left wing conspiracy?):

    scab

    3b (1) : a worker who refuses to join a labor union (2) : a union member who refuses to strike or returns to work before a strike has ended (3) : a worker who accepts employment or replaces a union worker during a strike (4) : one who works for less than union wages or on nonunion terms

    Scab - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

    Fail #3. How do you guys stand all the fail?
    So failing your arguments on topic (unions) you now want to argue semantics (the definition of scab), understood.

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