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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Well, according to the Conservative definition they are "takers"; accepting union benefits without contributing to the cost of obtaining those benefits.

    Now were they needy then I could perhaps see giving them a pass on paying their fair share, but no case is made to that effect.
    Fair share? You mean being forced to pay union dues when you don't want to belong to one? That's your idea of fair share? Well, we disagree. IMO, the company ought to pay its nonunion workforce 50-cents an hour more and exempt them from work rules. They'd be quittin' that union in droves. Now that's union busting I could get behind.

    I don't need a union. I don't want a union. And forcing me or coercing me into paying their dues is little more than extortion.
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The line you bolded is misleading. The Scab List contains the workers name and the dept they work in.
    Yeah, guys, giving out a names and where they can find to people who think they are scum is totally not intimidation!
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Since the lawyer provides no evidence of his unrelated claim we don't know if he is correct or not. I see a propaganda effort underway here, in that allegations unrelated to this specific issue are being piggybacked to further a meme, and based on at least one response in this thread a misleading meme. Again, this is a recurring issue with conservative claims -- they mix, match, and try to push beyond the matter at hand to the point of getting their followers to believe things are true that are, in fact, mere allegations at this point (personal information, slashed tires, homes vandalized, etc).
    The same thing happened at UAW Local 1853 in Tennessee last week.
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Yeah, guys, giving out a names and where they can find to people who think they are scum is totally not intimidation!
    This union also tells people the names of their officers and where and when they can be found

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    Obviously, they want union members to intimidate their officers
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by RedAkston View Post
    Sub’s Town Plastered with Scab Flyers | fox8.com

    This was actually worse than just posting a scab list. They went to the neighborhood where these people lived and did this.
    Well now this is an entirely different event (different employer, different union, different workers, different state). And you have no evidence that the union was even involved with the letter (they deny it).

    Shouldn't this be a different thread? You are trying to tar the actions of one group with the actions of an entirely different group (in a different state, no less). Is that intellectually honest?

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    By taking advantage of the protections and benefits unions offer all employees without paying for them.

    Scabs are parasites.
    Screw the union. The only parasite is them. I've dealt with union cocksuckers, they generally make things more work than necessary and cost twice as much for half the work. I prefer non union shops to union shops. Non union shops get the job done with minimal bull**** and time for about half the cost. The real kicker is at least around here, non union wages are damn near what union wages within a couple of percent usually and in some cases higher significantly so. If I ever drive again for a living, I know exactly where I would go to work and it wouldn't be a union shop.

    Anyone who would willfully mistreat people that haven't mistreated them, are scum. Not belonging, or belonging to a union is no excuse to mistreat people. I may not like the union shops and I try not hire them, but that doesn't mean when I do work with them I treat them with contempt. They get treated like any other professional, as a professional with professional courtesy. Treating anybody any other way at the workplace or jobsite or professional setting is unacceptable, and crass, not mention foolish.
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    The normally higher union wage is a benefit, but I suspect you know this already. So, can you tell us what wage the scabs are working at, and compare it to the normal union wage at that facility?
    1. Can you? That would be a pretty neat trick, giving the incredible number of protests, pickets, and workers you'd have to cover down on.

    2. What he described were not scabs, but the freerider "problem".

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by RedAkston View Post
    Pressure tactics: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers | Fox News



    The last line is bolded for emphasis. These are the tactics that unions use and it's plain wrong. I dare anyone to defend what the union is doing here with a straight face.
    Hello folks, I'm new to DP. I can't say I'm shocked by this story. Anymore than I am the rather, um..............creative lengths some will go to in order to defend or dismiss the facts of the matter. Particularly when it comes to substantive discussions about the shortcomings and foibles of unions. In any case, I appreciate the (not surprisingly ignored) supporting data and links that have been posted. They really help to flesh out the big picture and I for one 'precipitate it.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

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    Hello folks, I'm new to DP. I can't say I'm shocked by this story. Anymore than I am the rather, um..............creative lengths some will go to in order to defend or dismiss the facts of the matter. Particularly when it comes to substantive discussions about the shortcoming and foibles of unions. In any case, I appreciate the (not surprisingly ignored) supporting data and links that have been posted. They really help to flesh out the big picture and I for one 'precipitate it.
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Fair share? You mean being forced to pay union dues when you don't want to belong to one? That's your idea of fair share? Well, we disagree. IMO, the company ought to pay its nonunion workforce 50-cents an hour more and exempt them from work rules. They'd be quittin' that union in droves. Now that's union busting I could get behind.

    I don't need a union. I don't want a union. And forcing me or coercing me into paying their dues is little more than extortion.
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