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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Please, in a closed shop, it is just that. CLOSED...
    "FACT: Workers In States Without Right-To-Work Laws Are Not Forced Into Unions
    Economist Dean Baker: "Workers At Any Workplace Always Have The Option As To Whether Or Not To Join A Union."In a 2011 post for the Center for Economic and Policy Research, economist Dean Baker pointed out that workers always have a choice whether to work for a union, whether or not their state has passed right-to-work laws."

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    "FACT: Workers In States Without Right-To-Work Laws Are Not Forced Into Unions
    Economist Dean Baker: "Workers At Any Workplace Always Have The Option As To Whether Or Not To Join A Union."In a 2011 post for the Center for Economic and Policy Research, economist Dean Baker pointed out that workers always have a choice whether to work for a union, whether or not their state has passed right-to-work laws."

    Myths And Facts About "Right-To-Work" Laws | Research | Media Matters for America
    Would you please define a CLOSED shop rather than trying to regurgitate something you think you understand from MediaDoesNotMatters...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Would you please define a CLOSED shop rather than trying to regurgitate something you think you understand from MediaDoesNotMatters...
    "The*Taft-Hartley Act*outlawed the closed shop in the*United States
    *in 1947"

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_shop
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    "The*Taft-Hartley Act*outlawed the closed shop in the*United States
    *in 1947"

    Closed shop - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Okay, you're correct, they're now called "union shops"...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Try again. A union is nothing more than something "created by the people through a (representational) democratic process and intended to be aid to those without" the balls to stand up for themselves and are only effective in non-right to work states...
    Employers have fired, blacklisted, beaten and killed many workers who stood up for themselves. There is nothing cowardly or wrong with working with others to achieve a goal, that is why we have governments, organizations and armies. Businesses have their own organizations and work together on their mutual goals all the time.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Employers have fired, blacklisted, beaten and killed many workers who stood up for themselves. There is nothing cowardly or wrong with working with others to achieve a goal, that is why we have governments, organizations and armies. Businesses have their own organizations and work together on their mutual goals all the time.
    I could flip many of your words, but I'm too lazy to do so this late...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
    Quote Originally Posted by James D Hill View Post
    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Okay, you're correct, they're now called "union shops"...
    No.

    "Union shops" are not the same as "closed shops."

    And further they're not called "union shops" now because:

    "the Union Shop was also deemed to be illegal. The Supreme Court in "Pattern Makers v. NLRB", 473 U.S. 95 (1985)"

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_shop
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    Do you consider corporations "thugs and cowards" for being "hell bent on placing pressure" on employees to keep wages low because each supervisor, manager, executive, etc won't stand on their own?
    What?

    Corporations, or companies have one....repeat one mission....make money for their owners, and or shareholders

    Not to employ people

    Not to provide benefits

    To garner as much profit as possible

    Now most good ones pay decent wages, and good benefits because that attracts the best workers who in turn keep the profits rolling

    I pay enough to attract and retain the best I can get.....and my bottom line shows it
    “Most of the shadows of this life are caused by standing in one's own sunshine.”

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    No.

    "Union shops" are not the same as "closed shops."

    And further they're not called "union shops" now because:

    "the Union Shop was also deemed to be illegal. The Supreme Court in "Pattern Makers v. NLRB", 473 U.S. 95 (1985)"

    Union shop - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Try reading something other than that with which you agree...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
    Quote Originally Posted by James D Hill View Post
    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Try reading something other than that with which you agree...
    I don't consider wikipedia to have a massive liberal bias. I'm just google searching to provide a source.
    "The side that stays within its fortifications is beaten." ~Napoleon

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