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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I get employed by the employer, not the union. When I become hired, I have *no* obligation to the union. They have no expectation of my money. The mere act of me being hired does not make me a thief.
    If you take a job in a union shop you receive the benefit of the good wages, working conditions and benefits that the union and its members worked to obtain and maintain with a contract. In addition, the union will defend you if you are wrongly disciplined or fired. Not legally, but ethically, you are a thief if you don't pay the union for the services they provided that benefited you. The fact that someone is too arrogant or oblivious to appreciate what they union has done does not make it any less of a theft.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    On its own merits, perhaps. Nevertheless, what created that hostile work environment was the union. Just because some want to act like children doesn't mean it should be rewarded.
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    In other words you want to force people through threat of jail time to give you more money. Sorry but no union is a government.
    I want people to pay for services rendered on their behalf. That's fair.
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

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    [...] While unions often provide benefits, nowhere is it expected that each employee experience the Union sucking the money from their paycheck. [...]
    Just ran across this. OMG

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

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    scabs are only workers that cross picket lines to work. [...]
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    [...] if nothing then is done i sue both the union and the company for millions of dollars and retire.
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by GBFAN View Post
    Well, not exactly ...

    The union DOES keep a list of available personnel. When an employer calls, they will send over a group that could be potentially hired. HOWEVER ... selection of the employee is the responsibility of the employer ONLY. Otherwise, the union would have a rather significant liability in that they would be responsible for the failure of the person's work performance, theft, incompetence, etc.

    No union is going to take that on when they can't control the work environment.
    Construction works different. Or at leased used to. Company calls for two carpenters and one pipefitter, union sends over two carpenters and one pipefitter. Some of this was day work, some of it was until the job (contract) was finished -- weeks or months. Maybe years. Called a job hall, or something similar (edit: hiring hall). Wasn't only construction.
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I get employed by the employer, not the union. When I become hired, I have *no* obligation to the union. They have no expectation of my money. The mere act of me being hired does not make me a thief.
    Forget it; your argument has become intentionally obtuse, as any rational person can see.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Says the guy who condones Union Bullying and harassment.
    Oh my, and now the lies begin. You should learn to lose more gracefully

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    If you take a job in a union shop you receive the benefit of the good wages, working conditions and benefits that the union and its members worked to obtain and maintain with a contract. In addition, the union will defend you if you are wrongly disciplined or fired. Not legally, but ethically, you are a thief if you don't pay the union for the services they provided that benefited you. The fact that someone is too arrogant or oblivious to appreciate what they union has done does not make it any less of a theft.
    That's crap, mate. I benefit from the union's activity, but that doesn't make my presence thievery and it certainly does not justify public ostracism. People have to be convinced to pay the dues. It's not an obligation.
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Just ran across this. OMG
    Well, how is that any less true, guy? As soon as I get hired, am I punished by the employer or by the legal system for not contributing to the plate? If not, then yes, indeed, there is no expectation. If it is my right to do it, then you're still wrong.
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