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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by RedAkston View Post
    Sub’s Town Plastered with Scab Flyers | fox8.com

    This was actually worse than just posting a scab list. They went to the neighborhood where these people lived and did this.
    This reminds me of the reporter a while back who posted the addresses of all the gun-owners in a state, and was then horrified when someone responded by posting his address.


    I'm thinking, it's FOIA time on public monitoring, such as traffic cameras and the like. I'll betcha we can find out who's posting these fliers, and then we can let everyone who thinks that this is abusive know where they live, where their children go to school, etc.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    By pointing out misleading info contained in the article, I *am* addressing the article.
    There was nothing misleading about the article, only the rush to attack the source due to a preconceived disposition of the poster (that would be you).

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    Both the poor and the unemployed pay taxes.
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    I'm tolerant of this. Scabs should be treated with the contempt they deserve.

    LOL !!

    Well ofcourse you are.

    Why the left advocates " tolerance " and pushes the false narrative of intolerance, true tolerance for your average Liberal has never been about tolerating anything more than what they believe in.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Well, there's no personal infomration, just their neams and department numbers;
    Ummm....

    A persons name is considered Personally Identifiable Information. I'm pretty sure what department of a business you work in would also qualify as PII

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The line you bolded is misleading. The Scab List contains the workers name and the dept they work in.
    What was misleading about it?

    Did it include their name? Yes, by showing their name

    Did it include where they work in the plant? Yes, by showing their department

    Does it make them easy targets for intimidation or harassment? Yes, since it allows people to know who they are and what department they're in thus making it easier to find them and know they're a "Scab"

    Does it mean they WILL be targets of intimidation or harassment? No, but the line didn't suggest they WILL become targets, only that it makes them easy targets.

    Considering the story goes on to say

    “The following individuals are NON-dues paying workers. They have chosen to STOP paying Union Dues and still reap the rewards of your negotiated benefits,” the Tennessee “Scab Report” said. “If you work near one of these people listed please explain the importance of Solidarity and the power of collective bargaining.”
    And "Harassment" is defined in the oxford dictionary as an "aggressive pressure or intimidation", it definitely seems that the notion that it makes them easy target for harassment is not "misleading". The report itself is indicating that the names and departments are given for the purpose of letting people know who/where these people are so that if they "work near" one of them they can pressure them about the importance of being in the Union.

    What was misleading about it?

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by RedAkston View Post
    Sub’s Town Plastered with Scab Flyers | fox8.com

    This was actually worse than just posting a scab list. They went to the neighborhood where these people lived and did this.
    .....
    The union says they were not aware of any scab letter, and that things are getting ugly for both sides.
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by RedAkston View Post
    There was nothing misleading about the article, only the rush to attack the source due to a preconceived disposition of the poster (that would be you).
    I pointed out what was misleading, and you have yet to refute it

    Really? I have an aunt who is poor and disabled. She hasn't paid taxes in years. Do you wish to retract your statement or are you going to stick with the lie?
    She doesn't buy anything that sales taxes apply to?
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    .....The union says they were not aware of any scab letter, and that things are getting ugly for both sides.
    Naturally. And just like the mob thugs who come in and suggest that you voluntarily pay some money for local protection, pointing out what a nice place it is you have here, and wouldn't it be a shame if someone were to smash it and set it on fire, they have no idea how it could possibly come to pass that those who refuse to pay up should then run into troubles....

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I pointed out what was misleading, and you have yet to refute it

    She doesn't buy anything that sales taxes apply to?
    If she's on disability, she doesn't pay a dime.
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    As unions continue to lose support with workers, they will continue to try and hold tighter on what little they have left.

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