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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Is that the only thing the AG is supposed to be concerned with?
    If you asked me that 10 years ago, I would say no. Under this administration, I am not sure.
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Fair point but sometimes there's no other choice but to take the scab job.
    It is not a scab job.

    The employer offers jobs and people take them.

    If some people are in the union, they choose to do that, but the job is still the job and the employer is the owner of that job, not the union.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    It is not a threat of anything but being criticized, shunned and embarrassed. Most other activities against a scab would be illegal.

    Home addresses were not listed.
    That would create a hostile work environment which is not allowed at most big companies, so who gets fired?

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    It is not a threat of anything but being criticized, shunned and embarrassed. Most other activities against a scab would be illegal.

    Home addresses were not listed.
    That should never be allowed in any workplace under any circumstances. Management would be forced to take action.
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    It sucks to be undercut. The South did it to the Midwest the same way that freeloaders are doing it to their union counterparts.

    The fallout? The rich get richer and the middle class shrinks.
    Yeah. It turns out bomb all the other industrialized countries into smithereens so that you have zero competition wasn't a very sustainable business strategy.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    That should never be allowed in any workplace under any circumstances. Management would be forced to take action.
    "Somebody censor the internet!"

    It's not bad enough to support freeloaders but you're anti-free speech too?
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    "Somebody censor the internet!"

    It's not bad enough to support freeloaders but you're anti-free speech too?
    It creates a poor working environment and creates animosity between co-workers. It should not be tolerated. People are told to knock it off in ordinary circumstances on the job. That's a decent standard to abide by.
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    It creates a poor working environment and creates animosity between co-workers. It should not be tolerated. People are told to knock it off in ordinary circumstances on the job. That's a decent standard to abide by.
    You know what else created a poor working environment and animosity?

    Scabs.
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    [...] C) Take that to lawmakers. [...]
    Well, that trend is reversing as far as legislation is concerned (government is becoming more hostile to unions). In the distant past (before 1947), in a closed union shop everyone had to join the union, period.

    After that date, federal law prohibited the closed shop and allowed workers to refuse to join the union but they still had to pay their share of the cost of operating the union (called the agency shop).

    As time went by and more state lawmakers became paid, aided, and abetted by ALEC to be hostile to unions, state-level laws (right-to-work) were implemented to where the non-member could opt of of their share of the union's operating cost altogether and simply 'free ride' (the 'open' shop). So, in those states (about half) there will be no appeal to lawmakers, unless the unions can pay them more than pro-business groups like the Kochs and the Chamber of Commerce is paying them. Since the intent and the effect of the laws is to cripple unions, there is little chance of that (and I doubt they have the deep pockets that the anti-unionists have, even on a good day).

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    ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    You know what else created a poor working environment and animosity?

    Scabs.
    Is this sort of behavior tolerated under other circumstances in the workplace, without the possibility of a lawsuit or being laid off? You're supposed to get along with co-workers and not divide them or cause them significant amounts of discomfort. I've had co-workers laid off or threatened with being fired for causing so much drama. Other folks doing this sort of thing toward a person of a protected status or subject matter were walking a tight line in causing liability for a lawsuit.

    This is not proper behavior in the workplace and this is the sort of thing we teach teenagers to not do on the job.

    Just because your union sympathies make it awfully tempting to support or engage in this behavior does not make it right or proper in the slightest.
    Michael J Petrilli-"Is School Choice Enough?"-A response to the recent timidity of American conservatives toward education reform. https://nationalaffairs.com/publicat...-choice-enough

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