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‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers[W:702:1041]

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NIMBY said:
And you are no true conservative sir--
do you support scabs not paying their fair share of negotiating costs--

not the faux poutrage of dues that deservedly go to DEM candidates to fight the "corporations are people"
scum who have fought against Unions since TR gave them to us !
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To me, unions are a dinosaur.....that should 'splain things to you, son.
Probably why your numbers are diminishing, another generation or two
unions will be totally irrelevent.
 
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RedAkston said:
Karl said:
Meister said:
[...] IMO the unions and horse and buggy are very simular, they had their place in American history, but their time has come and gone.
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Just like the 2nd Amendment, eh? :mrgreen:
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Did you seriously just compare an amendment to the Constitution to labor laws? [...]
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Another thing I see often, that really fascinates me, is the apparent inability to read. Is this something new or has it been creeping up on us for decades and I've simply failed to notice?

In any case, I was clearly comparing a specific amendment to the Constitution with unions and the horse-and-buggy in order to mock the poster's argument (partly as a reductio ad absurdum and partly as another one of those 'petard hoistings' that some posters don't seem to understand).

Returning to the reading issue, would a larger font help? . . . . . Crayons, maybe?
 
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Thrilla said:
you guys act like most of the union dues goes towards negotiating contracts and other representational services..... well, they don't..... less than 30% of member dues goes to representation,.
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And much of the rest goes to training, and safety for its' members, greivances and arbitration, research, legal services, overhead, communications, etc
 
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Scabs should be harassed and intimidated. It is an affront to every working man out there that you've got people who'll bottom feed and piss on all the work and effort that has gone in to organized labor.

As I said in an earlier post, The Right to Work For Less crowd's take on this is completely hypocritical. They'd gladly let union busting, employer intimidation, and use of the police to further the ends of the employer but then when not even a fraction of their tactics are used by the other side, they get all indignant, all, --"Why I NEVER?!?!? This must be stopped, those poor people!!"

I mean get bent, seriously...
 
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Yet you have no argument--just a side-swiping drive-by critique of others' comments.
Stay focused on the OP--how do nonUnion scabs sleep at night knowing they're cheating their fellow brothers and sisters--without alcohol that is?
I wouldn't feel too safe in the workplace if I was them--even with all those nasty regulations .

Meister said:
This is your best serious argument? REALLY? :lamo
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Thrilla said:
you guys act like most of the union dues goes towards negotiating contracts and other representational services..... well, they don't..... less than 30% of member dues goes to representation,.
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No, the point is the costs is divided amount it's members and members will have to pay more if their counterparts refuse to pay but those counterparts receive the same exact benefits.
 
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NIMBY said:
Libbos and Connies--Libbos and Connies--
looks like yer diving back--hacking into yer Stormfront FOXhole of insults when YOU Can'tor argue the facts .
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The facts are from the libs own posts. Try and catch up and don't get so emotional, son.
 
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Thrilla said:
automobiles replaced horse and buggies

what has replaced firearms again?
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I would assume, based on the other poster's assertions, the same thing that replace the unions: the government :shock:

I can understand the argument: since the government protects us so well in the workplace, then surely they can protect us everywhere else.
 
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clownboy said:
You can harass with public info alone.
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No one at this local was harrassed. I can use the info in a phone book to harass

The rest of your post has been either refuted or addressed. Try to keep up

And scabs are the workers who work across picket lines, not generally all non-union workers.

Now, what other possible reason would the union have of publishing these names other than to target them for harassment?
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rabbitcaebannog said:
And the union side if the story is it's inappropriate for them to have to equally protect people who refuse to pay for representation. Instead, their coworkers who pay union dues are paying for it.
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FWIW, I think the non-union workers should reimburse the union for any monies that were spent in his/her representation ... however, i do not believe any employer should be forced or coerced to be a full time dues-paying member and pay for items unrelated to representation

if other folks want to unionize and pay 2/3rds of their dues to items other than representation ,that's fine with me too.... folks are free to pay for any old thing they want to pay for.
 
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NIMBY said:
Yet you have no argument--just a side-swiping drive-by critique of others' comments.
Stay focused on the OP--how do nonUnion scabs sleep at night knowing they're cheating their fellow brothers and sisters--without alcohol that is?
I wouldn't feel too safe in the workplace if I was them--even with all those nasty regulations .
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Actually, you're wrong, the OP is about the union posting names and areas of non union employees in the work place.
 
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Meister said:
To me, unions are a dinosaur.....that should 'splain things to you, son .
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So now Meister stoops to calling me "son" with his neverending moronic nonsense.
Probably why your numbers are diminishing, another generation or two
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Numbers diminshed when Reagan taught the Nation they could have something for nothing--the 18 trillion debt.
unions will be totally irrelevent.
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And you will be back to working weekends--with lower pay back to that of women--and no pensions as before FDR and TR.
Good thing I'm a retired Chemistry/Physics/Math teacher who actually did a great job for 34 years and 6 more in retirement--sonny .
 
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Grim17 said:
Nice of you NOT to read the story and simply say Fox is lying... how very... ummm... progressive of you.
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He read the story that is how he knew that only the freeloader's names and the department they work in were listed.
 
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rabbitcaebannog said:
No, the point is the costs is divided amount it's members and members will have to pay more if their counterparts refuse to pay but those counterparts receive the same exact benefits.
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Sounds like a good reason for the thinking person to not join a union.
 
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As they should with these scabs .

Meister said:
Actually, you're wrong, the OP is about the union posting names and areas of non union employees in the work place.
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Thrilla said:
you guys act like most of the union dues goes towards negotiating contracts and other representational services..... well, they don't..... less than 30% of member dues goes to representation,.
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Facts not in evidence, and if you head in the direction I suspect then you're on your way to being pwned ;)
 
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Thrilla said:
FWIW, I think the non-union workers should reimburse the union for any monies that were spent in his/her representation ... however, i do not believe any employer should be forced or coerced to be a full time dues-paying member and pay for items unrelated to representation

if other folks want to unionize and pay 2/3rds of their dues to items other than representation ,that's fine with me too.... folks are free to pay for any old thing they want to pay for.
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Like what kind of other items are unrelated to representation? Those nice wages and bennies were all part of the package.
 
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I've never heard anyone accuse a nonUnion scab in a Union shop of being a thinking person clownboy.
How 'bout you ?

clownboy said:
Sounds like a good reason for the thinking person to not join a union.
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ChezC3 said:
I find the Right To Work For Less crowd's outrage on this topic to be more than a little disingenuous, to say the least...
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They are ignorant, easily swayed by one or two anecdotes, and arrogant, but mostly sincere. Many fools identify more with the boss's interests than their own. They have been conned to think that the billionaires that profit off of other people's labor care about liberty and constitutional principals when they are only trying to maximize their profits. Some call these fools house niggers. I call it Stockholder's Syndrome.
 
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sangha said:
And much of the rest goes to training, and safety for its' members, greivances and arbitration, research, legal services, overhead, communications, etc
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The company pays for safety training and arbitration. The rest is only necessary to have a union. No union and those things are not needed.
 
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rabbitcaebannog said:
Why? Please be specific.
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I quoted the post I was responding to. Together they contain what you're asking for.
 
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NIMBY said:
So now Meister stoops to calling me "son" with his neverending moronic nonsense.

Numbers diminshed when Reagan taught the Nation they could have something for nothing--the 18 trillion debt.

And you will be back to working weekends--with lower pay back to that of women--and no pensions as before FDR and TR.
Good thing I'm a retired Chemistry/Physics/Math teacher who actually did a great job for 34 years and 6 more in retirement--sonny .
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my apologies, you sounded more like an emotional adolescent than a chemistry, physics, math teacher for 34 years.
Like I said earlier, we have government regulations in place to protect the workroom floor.
 
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clownboy said:
[...] And scabs are the workers who work across picket lines, not generally all non-union workers. [...]
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Didn't you get the memo? If not, try to keep up -- repeating the obvious wastes everyones' time.

Karl said:
[...] I suggest you consult a dictionary. Or, you can continue to be wrong
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scab

noun

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4. a worker who refuses to join a labor union or to participate in a union strike, who takes a striking worker's place on the job, or the like.

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scab. Dictionary.com. Dictionary.com Unabridged. Random House, Inc. Scab | Define Scab at Dictionary.com (accessed: October 10, 2014).
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