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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Heh...worker solidarity, unless you don't cough up yer dues to a voluntary organization. Who really should be accused of being a back stabber?
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Which I've stated multiple times may very well be the case in most instances

    But that's irrelevant to the point of who PROVIDES those things.

    All pointing that out does is act as a diversion. If someone says "The employer is the one providing the benefits" and someone goes "No they don't, that's the union" that's just simply wrong. The union doesn't PROVIDE it. They may be the impetus for WHY the employer provided it...but it's still the employer providing it.
    IMO, it's the pendantic quibbling about the word "providing" that is the diversion. The point should be pretty clear that without the power of collective bargaining, the employer would probably not be providing everything it currently does provide.

    And I'm pretty sure you understand that is the point.
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Oh Jesus Christ. Grow up, would you? People who aren't in your group aren't going out of their way to screw you over. They are working, providing for themselves and their families, same as the rest of us.
    Don't you dare presume to tell me to 'grow up'. You don't know me and you don't know anything about me. Non-union employees don't have to 'go out of their way' to screw union employees over. There very existence jeopardizes the job of every union employee.

    On the other hand, you have apstd liking your post. It must make you so happy.
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Then the only reason why you should be against employers doing the same is because you aren't one of them. If you want to be shameless, perhaps the most courtesy you could extend is to be completely honest.
    It makes me wonder what these pro-list folks would think of the old Blacklists that Employers used to pass around of union agitators...

    after all, consequences in employment is justified where it is due, eh?

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Don't you dare presume to tell me to 'grow up'. You don't know me and you don't know anything about me. Non-union employees don't have to 'go out of their way' to screw union employees over. There very existence jeopardizes the job of every union employee.
    If an immature, self-centered idea comes from someone's mind, it will be called immature. Sorry, bub.
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Don't you dare presume to tell me to 'grow up'. You don't know me and you don't know anything about me.


    Thank you, wiggen, for responding in such a way as to perfectly make his point. You sound precisely like a 15-20 year old.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Meister View Post
    No one is screwing you....but you do want to harass them, and this is just proving the point of the OP. Thanks for your honesty
    Don't mention it. If anybody is undercutting me by willing to work with non-union standards in place then yes, they are screwing me over and yes, I will react to that.
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    IMO, it's the pendantic quibbling about the word "providing" that is the diversion. The point should be pretty clear that without the power of collective bargaining, the employer would probably not be providing everything it currently does provide.

    And I'm pretty sure you understand that is the point.
    That's a crock of **** given the fact we already have OSHA amongst other organizations that look after the workers..

    Uninons are only in the game for the $$$$ and the heads of these unions are nothing more than criminals ripping off the workers...

    At one point in history unions had a purpose but presently they're no better than the mafia (why you think the unions got in bed with the mafia in the first place?).

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    This is why people suggest it makes it easier to target them for harassment and why people think harassment may happen.

    Definition for Harassment from Merriam-webster

    "to create an unpleasant or hostile situation for especially by uninvited and unwelcome verbal or physical conduct."







    Is anyone going to tell me that showing people "contempt", attempting to criticize, shun, and embaress them, and treating them like someone who is "screwing" you isn't going to creating an unpleasent or hostile situation and isn't being done via verbal contact?

    If you think they have the harassment "coming to them" then so be it, but I hope some posters stop acting like it's entirely unreasonable to think this makes it easier for people to harass them
    SO now every unpleasant experience at work is "harrassment"?

    I once worked with a chronic nose-picker. Was I being harrassed?
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post


    Thank you, wiggen, for responding in such a way as to perfectly make his point. You sound precisely like a 15-20 year old.
    Criticism from you and all the other hard line right wing anti-union people on here just proves how right I am. And no, having served during the Vietnam War clearly doesn't make me a 15-20 years old. But thanks for the condescension.
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