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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Is there a strong African-American base in the Union?
    Is that the only thing the AG is supposed to be concerned with?
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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    For the purposes of debate, your personal anecdotes are irrelevant.
    Yes, I agree. Your personal anecdotes are irrelevant.
    Welfare (Food Stamps, WIC, etc...) are not entitlements. They are taxpayer funded handouts and shouldn't be called entitlements at all. Social Security and Veteran's benefits are 'Entitlements' because the people receiving them are entitled to them. They were earned and paid for by the recipients.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Would you be willing to explain your claim that the term "scab" has a violent undertone?

    I will concede that it is not complimentary, and is indeed derogatory, but I'd be interested to see you try to explain the violence component. Based on experience, I will not be holding my breath
    Ask your union buddies the origin of the word. It's from the 30s, the developing unions, and they are called scabs because you pick them off.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    His point still stands. While the union may've been the impetus for the benefits by convincing/forcing the employer into providing them....ultimately it is still the employer providing those benefits.
    No, it doesn't... in fact it falls far outside conventional wisdom. You should read that link too.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    No, it doesn't... in fact it falls far outside conventional wisdom. You should read that link too.
    Based on your posting history here, it's quite apparent that you don't know what conventional wisdom is. But keep on trying, I'm rooting for you to make a valid point by the time you get to 10,000 posts.
    Welfare (Food Stamps, WIC, etc...) are not entitlements. They are taxpayer funded handouts and shouldn't be called entitlements at all. Social Security and Veteran's benefits are 'Entitlements' because the people receiving them are entitled to them. They were earned and paid for by the recipients.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    She doesn't pay any sales tax? Come on, Maggie... some posts in this thread are part of a fast-and-furious mission to deceive, don't get caught up in the whirlwind . . . . .
    There are two states without sales taxes you know.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Not shocked, unions are full of libs and libs are disgusting vile people

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Ask your union buddies the origin of the word. It's from the 30s, the developing unions, and they are called scabs because you pick them off.
    I can hardly keep up with the misinformation in this thread:

    Word Origin and History for scab
    n.
    [...] Meaning "strikebreaker" first recorded 1806, from earlier sense of "person who refuses to join a trade union" (1777), probably from meaning "despicable person" (1580s), possibly borrowed in this sense from Middle Dutch.

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    scab. Dictionary.com. Online Etymology Dictionary. Douglas Harper, Historian. Scab | Define Scab at Dictionary.com (accessed: October 10, 2014).

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by d0gbreath View Post
    That said, I would address the OP as supposition. As there have been no known evils perpetrated upon anyone on the scab list, this is much ado about nothing.
    Agree here. I think it's poor form and unethical for the Union to label individuals as a negative entity and then provide PII on those individuals, but I don't think it's inherently a big news worthy story. It helps to make an issue more probable, but it doens't cause the issue. If there are actual instances of harassment or intimidation, then it becomes more of a story.

    Though the seeming "ends justify the means" attitude by some on here and the outright disdain and actual seeming tacit support of harassment/intimidation if it were to happen was rather shocking. As were those who needed to have such a knee jerk reaction as to claim that clear and blatant things were somehow anything but.

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    Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

    Quote Originally Posted by d0gbreath View Post
    I was forced to scab by management to cover for a grocer's strike

    I blatantly busted the local carpenter unions when I was a construction boomer.

    I once had a welding job that ushered me into the union. That only lasted for six months.

    I sometimes fantasize about unionizing the WalMart employees.

    I don't have a dog in the hunt.

    That said, I would address the OP as supposition. As there have been no known evils perpetrated upon anyone on the scab list, this is much ado about nothing.
    That's usually how weak modern unions fall apart. It's the last dying vestige of the doomed. When high-rise builders dropped wages for carpenters in DFW, the union didn't even show up much less picket.

    I don't care much for open ended OPs that feign danger! danger! Especially when I know that nothing is going to happen to those people. The unions can't even get rid of illegal workers from the south, much less non-union workers in their own town.

    You can trap twice as many flies with honey.
    Interesting. So what was the union's motivation for posting those names on their website?
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