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58% of Americans want to ban flights from West Africa[W:106]

58% of Americans have better common sense than the government.

And I bet 58% of Americans would fly after being exposed to ebola because well - they have a REASON - I'm going to be in a wedding! I prepaid for the cruise tickets! My nephew is being born! I have to attend my parents' 50th wedding anniversary!

people are morons.
 
I say we lock the world down for 21 days. no one travels more than 10 miles from home; if you are in a major metropolitan area, you can't leave it.

No planes. No trains. No busses. Minimal use of cars.

We'll get hungry. the economy will crash.

But if people are stupid enough to fly when they're on the ebola watch list, then oh well. Let's do it. Shut the world down.

Too late, I've flown twice in the last two days, and I'm still alive, and will be in 21 days.
 
The reasons the CDC have given for NOT blocking commercial flights from the Liberian area to the USA seem pretty weak.
Makes you wonder if they're not giving the actual reason because it would sound insanely out-of-balance politically to most of us.

Again, there are no flights from any of the 3 infected countries to the USA.
Freetown, one flight to Brussels (Brussels Airline), one flight to Casablanca (Royal Air Maroc)
Monrovia, one flight to Brussels via Freetown(Brussels Airline), one flight to Casablanca(Royal Air Maroc)
Conakry, one flight to Paris, via Noukachott,(Air France) one flight to Brussels (Brussels Airline), one flight to Casablanca.(Royal Air Maroc)

None by any US airline, and there have not been any outbreaks in France, Belgium, Morroco, or Marutania.

Next....
 
Lots of things kill more people ... that's not the point. The point is we should be doing everything possible, including a temporary ban from hot spot countries, from entering the US. The flu is a red herring and the flu doesn't kill the same way, and the flu doesn't have a 70% mortality rate.

Hype is irrelevant. The government who controls travel in this country is not protecting it's people, is not providing protocols for caring for Ebola patients and is playing politics with peoples lives. Hospitals are not prepared for this because the US has not encountered this disease in this country - so I don't blame hospitals as this is all too new. We need nurses and doctors to be trained - that takes time.

Nurse At Texas Health Presbyterian Speaks About Ebola Crisis - Business Insider

Ebola does not have a 70% mortality if the patient is treated quickly and in the U.S. It appears that all the other cases here will be recovering so that's 0% mortality so far.
The key is rapid ID and an antibody transfusion from a survivors blood. This is not West Africa. Our "epidemic" has ended with 1 foreign death and no Americans. How silly is that?

Cameraman free of Ebola, can leave Nebraska hospital - CNN.com
 
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Ebola does not have a 70% mortality if the patient is treated quickly and in the U.S. It appears that all the other cases here will be recovering so that's 0% mortality so far.
The key is rapid ID and an antibody transfusion from a survivors blood. This is not West Africa. Our "epidemic" has ended with 1 foreign death and no Americans. How silly is that?

Cameraman free of Ebola, can leave Nebraska hospital - CNN.com

That sounds swell --- and if there are only a few cases I'm sure we can deal with that without a problem. When there are thousands of cases however hospitals get overwhelmed, lack of quarantine locations, lack of experience and lack of proper procedures let the disease spread. We can cut all that down with common sense approach: 1) Temporary travel ban into the US as I already stated 2) More resource in West Africa to contain the disease and treat it 3) More R&D to further a vaccine to prevent the virus in the first place.
 
Too late, I've flown twice in the last two days, and I'm still alive, and will be in 21 days.

Tarnation, how dare you be sensible and not pander to the panic-mongers!!! What kind of 'murrican are you? (smile)

Glad you're still alive!
 
Tarnation, how dare you be sensible and not pander to the panic-mongers!!! What kind of 'murrican are you? (smile)

Glad you're still alive!

Hoping to fly next week if there are seats for me to standby!
 
That sounds swell --- and if there are only a few cases I'm sure we can deal with that without a problem. When there are thousands of cases however hospitals get overwhelmed, lack of quarantine locations, lack of experience and lack of proper procedures let the disease spread. We can cut all that down with common sense approach: 1) Temporary travel ban into the US as I already stated 2) More resource in West Africa to contain the disease and treat it 3) More R&D to further a vaccine to prevent the virus in the first place.

Actually EVEN with all the mistakes we made the disease has not spread appreciably. We now have safeguards in place that will prevent travelers from going unchecked too.
There are already 2 vaccines being tested too. There is no need for a travel "ban" we have got this.

New travel restrictions in place
All U.S.-bound passengers from Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea must land in one of the five U.S. airports with enhanced screening for Ebola: New York's John F. Kennedy International, Washington Dulles, New Jersey's Newark Liberty International, Chicago's O'Hare International and Hartsfield-Jackson International in Atlanta
Vaccine testing under way
Testing has started on a vaccine at the U.S. National Institutes of Health while a trial for a second vaccine, developed in Canada, began at the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research in Maryland.
Ebola outbreak: Get up to speed with the latest - CNN.com
 
Actually EVEN with all the mistakes we made the disease has not spread appreciably. We now have safeguards in place that will prevent travelers from going unchecked too.
There are already 2 vaccines being tested too. There is no need for a travel "ban" we have got this.
Any time someone claims the US government "got this" I have serious doubt.
 
Right, Your life is so bad it hurts.

So you now know me and my life.... please stop baiting me or fail flame me because I don't see the US government as the answer to all things. :coffeepap:
 
So you now know me and my life.... please stop baiting me or fail flame me because I don't see the US government as the answer to all things. :coffeepap:

Yet you want a travel ban from the Govt. It is all so confusing to me.
 
Yet you want a travel ban from the Govt. It is all so confusing to me.

Although I know from experience that Liberalism is all about Emotion, I think that common sense should prevail here...Not emotion.
 
Although I know from experience that Liberalism is all about Emotion, I think that common sense should prevail here...Not emotion.

Since when is irrational fear called common sense? Is that because the Right wants us to be in a constant state of fear?
 
I say we lock the world down for 21 days. no one travels more than 10 miles from home; if you are in a major metropolitan area, you can't leave it.

No planes. No trains. No busses. Minimal use of cars.

We'll get hungry. the economy will crash.

But if people are stupid enough to fly when they're on the ebola watch list, then oh well. Let's do it. Shut the world down.

This is a phenomenally stupid idea.
 
Although I know from experience that Liberalism is all about Emotion, I think that common sense should prevail here...Not emotion.

Right-wing lie No. 23,537: "Liberalism is all about emotion."

Amazing the number of fallacious talking points that are routinely regurgitated onto the forum.
 
Since when is irrational fear called common sense? Is that because the Right wants us to be in a constant state of fear?

It is common sense because when we are being told that they want to "contain" this outbreak, but yet won't do the simplest step to contain it which is cut off flights coming into the US carrying possible carriers.

You stupid comment about Republicans wanting us to live in fear is stupid, and nonsense far left talking point, and laughable.
 
Right-wing lie No. 23,537: "Liberalism is all about emotion."

Amazing the number of fallacious talking points that are routinely regurgitated onto the forum.

So you can't refute it so mock it...Too easy Kobie.
 
It is common sense because when we are being told that they want to "contain" this outbreak, but yet won't do the simplest step to contain it which is cut off flights coming into the US carrying possible carriers.

You stupid comment about Republicans wanting us to live in fear is stupid, and nonsense far left talking point, and laughable.

They are screeming all passengers from the infected area for Ebola. They are curing and releasing the few Americans that have contracted the disease which by all measures is over in this country but you are screaming for a ban still. I'm sorry but that is irrational fear mongering. A ban won't make us one bit safer than we already are.
 
They are screeming all passengers from the infected area for Ebola. They are curing and releasing the few Americans that have contracted the disease which by all measures is over in this country but you are screaming for a ban still. I'm sorry but that is irrational fear mongering. A ban won't make us one bit safer than we already are.

Not just me pal, even those from your own side of the isle...

"In multiple cases, the Democrats are shifting from their earlier positions on the question, despite arguments from senior U.S. medical officials and the White House that stiff restrictions would only make it harder to prevent an infected person from entering the country. Senator Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire joined the crowd on Monday night, saying through a spokesman that she "strongly supports any and all effective measures to keep Americans safe including travel bans if they would work."

Democrats Defy Obama in Favor of an Ebola Travel Ban - The Atlantic
 
There's no substance to refute. It's just a catchphrase.

Don't worry man, admitting you have a problem is the first step...I'm not saying that it is a bad thing to have emotions, but to rely on them for political answers never works out well for you libs...As you get older you'll realize that.
 
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