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    re: 58% of Americans want to ban flights from West Africa[W:106]

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    The flu doesn't have a 70% mortality rate. Ebola does.
    True, but you're still ignoring that more Americans have died in the last flu season with healthcare than Africans have died from Ebola this epidemic. That point is ignored constantly.

    I got my flu vaccination last week. You?
    Nope. I also don't have lots of close contact with people.

    Hyping a threat? Then let those who travel from West Africa board at your abode.
    Given the transmission of flu vs ebola, flu is far easier to get.

    The media is hyping this because it serves their ratings. The real thing we have to fear from this is fear. More people died in car accidents after 9/11 driving because they were afraid to fly. How much money are we going to waste treating people for Ebola who have the common flu?
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    re: 58% of Americans want to ban flights from West Africa[W:106]

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    But the flu kills more people every flu season, is far more contagious, people refuse to take the vaccines (which fyi only cover a handful of the strains), and as an American, you are FAR more likely to die from than Ebola.
    Lots of things kill more people ... that's not the point. The point is we should be doing everything possible, including a temporary ban from hot spot countries, from entering the US. The flu is a red herring and the flu doesn't kill the same way, and the flu doesn't have a 70% mortality rate.

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    We are hyping a threat that has killed ONE person who received very poor medical care and ignoring something that kills thousands.
    Hype is irrelevant. The government who controls travel in this country is not protecting it's people, is not providing protocols for caring for Ebola patients and is playing politics with peoples lives. Hospitals are not prepared for this because the US has not encountered this disease in this country - so I don't blame hospitals as this is all too new. We need nurses and doctors to be trained - that takes time.

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    re: 58% of Americans want to ban flights from West Africa[W:106]

    I say we lock the world down for 21 days. no one travels more than 10 miles from home; if you are in a major metropolitan area, you can't leave it.

    No planes. No trains. No busses. Minimal use of cars.

    We'll get hungry. the economy will crash.

    But if people are stupid enough to fly when they're on the ebola watch list, then oh well. Let's do it. Shut the world down.

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    re: 58% of Americans want to ban flights from West Africa[W:106]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    Again, its not "banning all flights." Its shutting down normal passenger traffic from the affected area. Resource flights and essential personnel (particularly medical) would still be allowed transit with quarantine protocols established. This is very doable and at this point grossly negligent not to.

    Do you really think its responsible to allow people to come and go freely from areas with a large amount of infected when the incubation period can be up to 3 weeks?
    Hell No! I'm not kidding!

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    re: 58% of Americans want to ban flights from West Africa[W:106]

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    I say we lock the world down for 21 days. no one travels more than 10 miles from home; if you are in a major metropolitan area, you can't leave it.

    No planes. No trains. No busses. Minimal use of cars.

    We'll get hungry. the economy will crash.

    But if people are stupid enough to fly when they're on the ebola watch list, then oh well. Let's do it. Shut the world down.
    It's not stupidity, it's total selfcentered thinking, and there a lot of them out there! S**** them!

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    re: 58% of Americans want to ban flights from West Africa[W:106]

    Quote Originally Posted by truthatallcost View Post
    58% of Americans want to ban flights from West Africa
    58% of Americans have better common sense than the government.

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    re: 58% of Americans want to ban flights from West Africa[W:106]

    Quote Originally Posted by 29A View Post
    58% of Americans have better common sense than the government.
    And I bet 58% of Americans would fly after being exposed to ebola because well - they have a REASON - I'm going to be in a wedding! I prepaid for the cruise tickets! My nephew is being born! I have to attend my parents' 50th wedding anniversary!

    people are morons.

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    re: 58% of Americans want to ban flights from West Africa[W:106]

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    I say we lock the world down for 21 days. no one travels more than 10 miles from home; if you are in a major metropolitan area, you can't leave it.

    No planes. No trains. No busses. Minimal use of cars.

    We'll get hungry. the economy will crash.

    But if people are stupid enough to fly when they're on the ebola watch list, then oh well. Let's do it. Shut the world down.
    Too late, I've flown twice in the last two days, and I'm still alive, and will be in 21 days.
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    re: 58% of Americans want to ban flights from West Africa[W:106]

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    The reasons the CDC have given for NOT blocking commercial flights from the Liberian area to the USA seem pretty weak.
    Makes you wonder if they're not giving the actual reason because it would sound insanely out-of-balance politically to most of us.
    Again, there are no flights from any of the 3 infected countries to the USA.
    Freetown, one flight to Brussels (Brussels Airline), one flight to Casablanca (Royal Air Maroc)
    Monrovia, one flight to Brussels via Freetown(Brussels Airline), one flight to Casablanca(Royal Air Maroc)
    Conakry, one flight to Paris, via Noukachott,(Air France) one flight to Brussels (Brussels Airline), one flight to Casablanca.(Royal Air Maroc)

    None by any US airline, and there have not been any outbreaks in France, Belgium, Morroco, or Marutania.

    Next....
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    re: 58% of Americans want to ban flights from West Africa[W:106]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Lots of things kill more people ... that's not the point. The point is we should be doing everything possible, including a temporary ban from hot spot countries, from entering the US. The flu is a red herring and the flu doesn't kill the same way, and the flu doesn't have a 70% mortality rate.

    Hype is irrelevant. The government who controls travel in this country is not protecting it's people, is not providing protocols for caring for Ebola patients and is playing politics with peoples lives. Hospitals are not prepared for this because the US has not encountered this disease in this country - so I don't blame hospitals as this is all too new. We need nurses and doctors to be trained - that takes time.

    Nurse At Texas Health Presbyterian Speaks About Ebola Crisis - Business Insider
    Ebola does not have a 70% mortality if the patient is treated quickly and in the U.S. It appears that all the other cases here will be recovering so that's 0% mortality so far.
    The key is rapid ID and an antibody transfusion from a survivors blood. This is not West Africa. Our "epidemic" has ended with 1 foreign death and no Americans. How silly is that?

    Cameraman free of Ebola, can leave Nebraska hospital - CNN.com
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