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    re: 58% of Americans want to ban flights from West Africa[W:106]

    Forget Laguardia, it makes sense for Every USA/EU airport.

    What's the downside?
    There is virtually ZERO significant loss of Tourism or other Economic/Business interest.
    The need for the nationals of those tiny/crap-hole countries (Liberia, Sierra Leone, Guinea) to get here is ZERO compared to the risk.

    Only Aid workers should be able to transit on chartered flights with Special precautions.
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    re: 58% of Americans want to ban flights from West Africa[W:106]

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    So you're saying a flight from west Africa couldn't connect elsewhere and fly to LGA?
    Ok, so now we have to ground every single foreign flight from anywhere in the world.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    re: 58% of Americans want to ban flights from West Africa[W:106]

    Yes ground every flight. Better safe than sorry.
    The cdc doesn't even know if it's airborne or not.
    Let's leave politics out of this.

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    re: 58% of Americans want to ban flights from West Africa[W:106]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Ok, so now we have to ground every single foreign flight from anywhere in the world.
    Landing doesn't decontaminate a plane. Not sure what the answer is.

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    re: 58% of Americans want to ban flights from West Africa[W:106]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Ok, so now we have to ground every single foreign flight from anywhere in the world.
    Travel ban =/= grounding every foreign flight. You start with direct flights. Passengers travel location are tracked via passport. Anyone who's traveled to any of these affected countries would be denied entry for a minimum of 30 days. This would take a concerted effort but its certainly doable and should have been done months ago. The further we allow this to progress, the more inherently difficult in becomes to implement.

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    re: 58% of Americans want to ban flights from West Africa[W:106]

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Ignorance run a muck. Let's start with the fact that LaGuardia is a domestic airport. They aren't likely to deal with anything more contagious than a tick on a plant in the baggage of a flight from Colorado carrying Lyme disease.

    Banning flights from Africa is also complete silliness. We inbound 150 persons per day from Africa

    http://www.newsweek.com/state-depart...nt-jobs-228898

    ...many of them, including Mr. Duncan, do not enter the country on flights from Africa but connect in Europe.

    People are starting to lose rationality. They are far more likely to be gunned down by a gunman in a movie theater or mall or die in a carjacking than die of ebola.

    So, what is the cost of truth?
    What about we ban flights from places in the US with high rates of unvaccinated kids? That might actually make more sense...

    I wish the general public would remember that Ebola isn't infectious until the patient starts showing symptoms. So if that person getting off the plane has been exposed, but is showing no symptoms, they aren't a threat.

    oh - also - How about you can't board a plane unless you have proof you got a flu shot? and a TDAP booster?

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    re: 58% of Americans want to ban flights from West Africa[W:106]

    Quote Originally Posted by truthatallcost View Post
    Q: What defines a "progressive"?
    A: A complete lack of foresight.


    I bet you thought AIDS was just a big scare tactic of the right too? Well close to 1,000,000 Americans have now died from AIDS. Hundreds of thousands have been infected and sickened by West Nile Virus. Africa also leads the world in whooping cough, tuberculosis, and malaria. We just happen to have had recent outbreaks of TB and whooping cough in the US, when those illnesses had previously been eradicated many years ago. So tell me, where's the actual "progress" that progressives bring? I don't see any, all I see is regression, so maybe you guys should call yourselves regressives.
    OK... I will play this childish game....

    Start childish game:

    What defines a Conservative? One who shuns science and scholarly works preferring to operate solely from their impressions of things; often internally tortured by fear of the unknown.

    End childish game:


    Why don't you tell us what science supports your fears to counter the science / academics works that shows you your fears are irrational.

    Why Ebola Is Not A Threat To The U.S. : NPR
    Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever | CDC
    Could Ebola Virus Become A Threat In The U.S.? - Forbes
    Surgeon General | SurgeonGeneral.gov

    I suppose you would like more "security theatre" like we currently have at airports designed primarily to give people a sense of comfort that they are protected from terrorists on planes. It does provide comfort; how much protection it actually provides is suspect, but people feel good. Since you seem to think on an emotional level, perhaps cancelling direct flights from West Africa would make you feel good. Just know it won't do much to really protect us (see previous post).

    I think you need to reconcile your fears with the science, but do to so, of course, you will need to actually pay the cost of the truth. Perhaps you can start with a search the Internets (all of them) to find some credible support for your position. It might help you feel better once you discover how weak that support is (most of it appealing only to the emotion of fear). Hey, if you find something really credible, maybe you can help the rest of us be more fearful as well.

    BTW. If you are so concerned that the US is unprepared for ebola, perhaps you should call your Senator and ask him why he is withholding the confirmation of a Surgeon General.

    BTW2. To your original concern about Obama protecting is "fellow Africans" .... I hope you realize that Obama is no more NOR any less an American than you. You really should get over that fear as well.
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    re: 58% of Americans want to ban flights from West Africa[W:106]

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Landing doesn't decontaminate a plane. Not sure what the answer is.
    We could try not losing our minds over a disease that kills fewer people than the flu.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    re: 58% of Americans want to ban flights from West Africa[W:106]

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    BTW2. To your original concern about Obama protecting is "fellow Africans" .... I hope you realize that Obama is no more NOR any less an American than you. You really should get over that fear as well.
    Descendents of Africans have suspicious loyalties, but descendents of Europeans are Real Americans(tm).
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    re: 58% of Americans want to ban flights from West Africa[W:106]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Descendents of Africans have suspicious loyalties, but descendents of Europeans are Real Americans(tm).
    that seems to be their proposition. And yet we all descended from Africans...

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