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    Re: Aides Knew of Possible White House Link to Cartagena, Colombia, Prostitution Scan

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    As with Watergate, it's not the act, it's the cover-up that injures the administration.
    agreed, though I have to wonder why this one was even worth the bother of a coverup. some 25 year old intern? if they were going to punish two dozen other SS agents, it is odd that they spared this guy

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    Re: Aides Knew of Possible White House Link to Cartagena, Colombia, Prostitution Scan

    and i don't get the "optics" angle of it.... the secret service has been associated with the oval office for a while

    what - 2 dozen agents cavorting with hookers was awful, but a 25year old intern also being involved was the line that they couldn't cross?

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    Re: Aides Knew of Possible White House Link to Cartagena, Colombia, Prostitution Scan

    Quote Originally Posted by Bethlehem Bill View Post
    agreed, though I have to wonder why this one was even worth the bother of a coverup. some 25 year old intern? if they were going to punish two dozen other SS agents, it is odd that they spared this guy
    Quote Originally Posted by Bethlehem Bill View Post
    and i don't get the "optics" angle of it.... the secret service has been associated with the oval office for a while

    what - 2 dozen agents cavorting with hookers was awful, but a 25year old intern also being involved was the line that they couldn't cross?
    The young man's father is a big Democrat donor, and it was before the 2012 election.
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    Re: Aides Knew of Possible White House Link to Cartagena, Colombia, Prostitution Scan

    The hits just keep comin'.
    This behavior, and many more important acts of coverup, are what can happen in an Administration with no fear whatsoever of scrutiny for 6 years ... and for anything that might be somehow uncovered, they knew they had a slow-walk, lying, or demonization strategy ready to achieve the same results.
    I'm afraid this will be the real Obama Administration legacy ... BUT ... the damage caused by what he actually accomplished will likely be with us forever.

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    Re: Aides Knew of Possible White House Link to Cartagena, Colombia, Prostitution Scan

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The young man's father is a big Democrat donor, and it was before the 2012 election.
    right, but my point is that the scandal was already as bad as it could have been - publicity wise - with the SS agents. as if anyone else in the general public would have become significantly more outraged to find out that oh by the way there was this other guy involved...

    so i understand covering up for a big money donor, but this seems like one where the administration should have thrown the guy under the bus with the rest of the dismissed SS agents.

    seriously how much money was this guy donating?

    and i do get that all administrations will look the other way when its one of their own who gets caught in a scandal, but the ones where this administration has gone to lengths to conceal just don't make sense to me

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    Re: Aides Knew of Possible White House Link to Cartagena, Colombia, Prostitution Scan

    Quote Originally Posted by Bethlehem Bill View Post
    right, but my point is that the scandal was already as bad as it could have been - publicity wise - with the SS agents. as if anyone else in the general public would have become significantly more outraged to find out that oh by the way there was this other guy involved...

    so i understand covering up for a big money donor, but this seems like one where the administration should have thrown the guy under the bus with the rest of the dismissed SS agents.

    seriously how much money was this guy donating?

    and i do get that
    all administrations will look the other way when its one of their own who gets caught in a scandal, but the ones where this administration has gone to lengths to conceal just don't make sense to me
    Were other Administrations brought to power through creation of a false image of their candidate that required these kinds of neverending coverups ... great and small?

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    Re: Aides Knew of Possible White House Link to Cartagena, Colombia, Prostitution Scan

    Quote Originally Posted by Bethlehem Bill View Post
    right, but my point is that the scandal was already as bad as it could have been - publicity wise - with the SS agents. as if anyone else in the general public would have become significantly more outraged to find out that oh by the way there was this other guy involved...

    so i understand covering up for a big money donor, but this seems like one where the administration should have thrown the guy under the bus with the rest of the dismissed SS agents.

    seriously how much money was this guy donating?

    and i do get that all administrations will look the other way when its one of their own who gets caught in a scandal, but the ones where this administration has gone to lengths to conceal just don't make sense to me
    Sometimes the explanation leads to "stupid." They wanted to be able to say the WH staff was uninvolved, and they wanted to help their donor pal.
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    Re: Aides Knew of Possible White House Link to Cartagena, Colombia, Prostitution Scan

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    She was an intern/secretary...

    Pages are usually between the ages of 14 and 17.
    That would have made blowjobgate a lot more interesting.

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    Re: Aides Knew of Possible White House Link to Cartagena, Colombia, Prostitution Scan

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    The hits just keep comin'.
    This behavior, and many more important acts of coverup, are what can happen in an Administration with no fear whatsoever of scrutiny for 6 years ... and for anything that might be somehow uncovered, they knew they had a slow-walk, lying, or demonization strategy ready to achieve the same results.
    I'm afraid this will be the real Obama Administration legacy ... BUT ... the damage caused by what he actually accomplished will likely be with us forever.
    Greetings, bubba.

    It's almost as if he expects to be around forever, so what happens in the meantime is not important. Americans went through the Great Depresion and Two World Wars, and we survived, and we are capable of doing so again - I hope! A lot depends on what the rest of the world decides to do about us, and that remains an unknown. We are technically bankrupt, with a debt we can't repay, since it's greater than our GDP and growing, but we keep spending because we have to, since so many depend upon government just to survive, and the world knows that, too. I feel sad for my children and grandchildren because of the mess we're leaving them, though.

    On a positive note, the green tomatoes I picked recently when frost was predicted here are ripening, so I'm enjoying eating sliced tomatoes with dinner, and they do taste great!

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    Re: Aides Knew of Possible White House Link to Cartagena, Colombia, Prostitution Scan

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, bubba.

    It's almost as if he expects to be around forever, so what happens in the meantime is not important. Americans went through the Great Depresion and Two World Wars, and we survived, and we are capable of doing so again - I hope! A lot depends on what the rest of the world decides to do about us, and that remains an unknown. We are technically bankrupt, with a debt we can't repay, since it's greater than our GDP and growing, but we keep spending because we have to, since so many depend upon government just to survive, and the world knows that, too. I feel sad for my children and grandchildren because of the mess we're leaving them, though.

    On a positive note, the green tomatoes I picked recently when frost was predicted here are ripening, so I'm enjoying eating sliced tomatoes with dinner, and they do taste great!
    I'm afraid it's way too hard to uproot Federal entitlements and they've put in a huge new one while expanding the old ones.
    One hope to curb his new one is the issue about subsidies for state plans only.

    Pulled up all the mato plants last weekend.

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