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    Aides knew of possible White House link to Cartagena, Colombia, prostitution scandal

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    By Carol D. Leonnig and David Nakamura October 8 at 11:40 PM
    As nearly two dozen Secret Service agents and members of the military were punished or fired following a 2012 prostitution scandal in Colombia, Obama administration officials repeatedly denied that anyone from the White House was involved. But new details drawn from government documents and interviews show that senior White House aides were given information at the time suggesting that a prostitute was an overnight guest in the hotel room of a presidential advance-team member — yet that information was never thoroughly investigated or publicly acknowledged.

    The information that the Secret Service shared with the White House included hotel records and firsthand accounts — the same types of evidence the agency and military relied on to determine who in their ranks was involved. The Secret Service shared its findings twice in the weeks after the scandal with top White House officials, including then-White House Counsel Kathryn Ruemmler. Each time, she and other presidential aides conducted an interview with the advance-team member and concluded that he had done nothing wrong.

    Meanwhile, the new details also show that a separate set of investigators in the inspector general’s office of the Department of Homeland Security — tasked by a Senate committee with digging more deeply into misconduct on the trip — found additional evidence from records and eyewitnesses who had accompanied the team member in Colombia. The lead investigator later told Senate staffers that he felt pressure from his superiors in the office of Charles K. Edwards, who was then the acting inspector general, to withhold evidence — and that, in the heat of an election year, decisions were being made with political considerations in mind. “We were directed at the time . . . to delay the report of the investigation until after the 2012 election,” David Nieland, the lead investigator on the Colombia case for the DHS inspector general’s office, told Senate staffers, according to three people with knowledge of his statement.
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    Aides knew of possible White House link to Cartagena, Colombia, prostitution scandal - The Washington Post


    Not only did the WH and Carney lie about who was involved and what they knew according to the WaPo story - apparently the WH gave the IG and inspectors instructions to delay the report until after Obama's 2012 election. The question becomes did anyone involved in the investigation lie to other government organizations like the IG or lead inspector? White House volunteer, Jonathan Dach, who's father is a wealthy donor to Dem causes is also curious. Secret Service Director Mark Sullivan gave WH lawyers information that Dach had registered a prostitute in his room yet, lead WH lawyer Ruemmler found "no credible information" of Dach's involvement. Dach works in the Office on Global Women’s Issues at the State Department. The House may take this up and issue further investigations as to the details and get testimony of those involved and named in the story.
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    Re: Aides knew of possible White House link to Cartagena, Colombia, prostitution scan

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    Aides knew of possible White House link to Cartagena, Colombia, prostitution scandal - The Washington Post


    Not only did the WH and Carney lie about who was involved and what they knew according to the WaPo story - apparently the WH gave the IG and inspectors instructions to delay the report until after Obama's 2012 election. The question becomes did anyone involved in the investigation lie to other government organizations like the IG or lead inspector? White House volunteer, Jonathan Dach, who's father is a wealthy donor to Dem causes is also curious. Secret Service Director Mark Sullivan gave WH lawyers information that Dach had registered a prostitute in his room yet, lead WH lawyer Ruemmler found "no credible information" of Dach's involvement. Dach works in the Office on Global Women’s Issues at the State Department. The House may take this up and issue further investigations as to the details and get testimony of those involved and named in the story.

    Yeah.....telling the IG here to delay the report. All for BO's re-election. Imagine that.

    Then there was BO firing an IG who was looking into his buddy Kevin Johnson. Wonder how many other IG's BO laid pressure on.

    Just more to pour onto BO and his Historic Presidency.

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    Re: Aides knew of possible White House link to Cartagena, Colombia, prostitution scan

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
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    Aides knew of possible White House link to Cartagena, Colombia, prostitution scandal - The Washington Post


    Not only did the WH and Carney lie about who was involved and what they knew according to the WaPo story - apparently the WH gave the IG and inspectors instructions to delay the report until after Obama's 2012 election. The question becomes did anyone involved in the investigation lie to other government organizations like the IG or lead inspector? White House volunteer, Jonathan Dach, who's father is a wealthy donor to Dem causes is also curious. Secret Service Director Mark Sullivan gave WH lawyers information that Dach had registered a prostitute in his room yet, lead WH lawyer Ruemmler found "no credible information" of Dach's involvement. Dach works in the Office on Global Women’s Issues at the State Department. The House may take this up and issue further investigations as to the details and get testimony of those involved and named in the story.
    I'm shocked. The WH and Carney lied?

    Actually, it's a day that ends in "y" so it's standard daily fare from them.
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    Re: Aides knew of possible White House link to Cartagena, Colombia, prostitution scan

    Can't say we should be surprised that this administration would lie and try to sweep this under the carpet, hoping it would all fade away. Now the questions are, will it actually go any where and will there be any consequences for those involved. We can only hope.

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    Re: Aides knew of possible White House link to Cartagena, Colombia, prostitution scan

    A column by New York Times public editor Byron Calame August 13 reveals that the newspaper withheld a story about the Bush administration’s program of illegal domestic spying until after the 2004 election, and then lied about it.
    On December 16, 2005, the Times reported that President Bush had authorized the National Security Agency (NSA) to monitor thousands of telephone conversations and e-mails in the US without court approval. At the time, the Times acknowledged that it had, at the urging of the Bush administration, withheld publication of the story, saying it held its exposé back “for a year.” This time frame suggested that the newspaper made the decision to withhold publication of the story after the 2004 presidential election.
    Such a delay was, in itself, unpardonable, and provoked angry criticism. Now we learn, from an interview with Executive Editor Bill Keller conducted by Calame, that internal discussions at the Times about drafts of the eventual article had been “dragging on for weeks” before the November 2, 2004, election, which resulted in a victory for Bush.
    “The process,” the public editor notes, “had included talks with the Bush administration.” A fresh draft was the subject of discussion at the newspaper “less than a week” before the election.

    Yeah, too bad we don't hold every administration accountable for wrong doing instead of partisan selection, then we might actually be able to clean Washington up.
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    Re: Aides knew of possible White House link to Cartagena, Colombia, prostitution scan

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I'm shocked. The WH and Carney lied?

    Actually, it's a day that ends in "y" so it's standard daily fare from them.
    Yes, it sucks, but press secretaries always lie and run cover for their administration.

    McClellan said he was scripted to deny to reporters that Bush had given the okay to White House political chief Karl Rove and Lewis (Scooter) Libby, Vice President Cheney's chief of staff, to leak intelligence on the Plame case.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...ticle-1.333127
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    Re: Aides knew of possible White House link to Cartagena, Colombia, prostitution scan

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yes, it sucks, but press secretaries always lie and run cover for their administration.

    McClellan said he was scripted to deny to reporters that Bush had given the okay to White House political chief Karl Rove and Lewis (Scooter) Libby, Vice President Cheney's chief of staff, to leak intelligence on the Plame case.

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    Re: Aides knew of possible White House link to Cartagena, Colombia, prostitution scan

    Obama and Hillary had no problem perpetuating a false narrative about the deaths of 4 Americans killed by terrorists.

    So this latest lie is no surprise.

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    Re: Aides knew of possible White House link to Cartagena, Colombia, prostitution scan

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    (Emphasis above is mine)


    Aides knew of possible White House link to Cartagena, Colombia, prostitution scandal - The Washington Post


    Not only did the WH and Carney lie about who was involved and what they knew according to the WaPo story - apparently the WH gave the IG and inspectors instructions to delay the report until after Obama's 2012 election. The question becomes did anyone involved in the investigation lie to other government organizations like the IG or lead inspector? White House volunteer, Jonathan Dach, who's father is a wealthy donor to Dem causes is also curious. Secret Service Director Mark Sullivan gave WH lawyers information that Dach had registered a prostitute in his room yet, lead WH lawyer Ruemmler found "no credible information" of Dach's involvement. Dach works in the Office on Global Women’s Issues at the State Department. The House may take this up and issue further investigations as to the details and get testimony of those involved and named in the story.



    It's "old news". It's another Republican witch hunt. "There's nothing there". This is more racist hate of our president. These things never happened. Bush started it. This is how they undermine our president in times of war. The Secret Service should remain secret. These are traitors.

    I know I left a few out, but I wanted to get the progressive excuses out of the way...

    Oh, and the president learned about it on tv...
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    Re: Aides knew of possible White House link to Cartagena, Colombia, prostitution scan

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    A column by New York Times public editor Byron Calame August 13 reveals that the newspaper withheld a story about the Bush administration’s program of illegal domestic spying until after the 2004 election, and then lied about it.
    On December 16, 2005, the Times reported that President Bush had authorized the National Security Agency (NSA) to monitor thousands of telephone conversations and e-mails in the US without court approval. At the time, the Times acknowledged that it had, at the urging of the Bush administration, withheld publication of the story, saying it held its exposé back “for a year.” This time frame suggested that the newspaper made the decision to withhold publication of the story after the 2004 presidential election.
    Such a delay was, in itself, unpardonable, and provoked angry criticism. Now we learn, from an interview with Executive Editor Bill Keller conducted by Calame, that internal discussions at the Times about drafts of the eventual article had been “dragging on for weeks” before the November 2, 2004, election, which resulted in a victory for Bush.
    “The process,” the public editor notes, “had included talks with the Bush administration.” A fresh draft was the subject of discussion at the newspaper “less than a week” before the election.

    Yeah, too bad we don't hold every administration accountable for wrong doing instead of partisan selection, then we might actually be able to clean Washington up.


    What does Bush have to do with what happened in 2012?


    Let's deal with the current problem shall we, not the fact Obama is at least as bad as Bush if not worse.
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