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    Chimpanzees' rights case argued at New York appeals court hearing

    Chimpanzees' rights case argued at New York appeals court hearing - CBS News

    Every chimp should go to school and vote in elections and get food stamps and own a gun and be read their miranda rights when being put under arrest

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    nobody is arguing that
    Yeah well I AM! Steven Wise isn't going far enough!

    Knowing the republicans though they'll make polling times difficult to dolphins and make dolphins wait in line for like 12 hours and suggest dolphins to get voter ID that they just can't get for some reason.

    Are we ready though for all the illegal alien dolphins from mexico swimming up to our coasts?

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    Re: Do chimps deserve the same basic rights as people?



    More seriously, however, no. They do not.

    This isn't to say that one should be cruel to them. However, the idea that they are deserving of "human rights" is simply absurd.

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    Re: Do chimps deserve the same basic rights as people?

    An octopus is smarter.



    And they taste delicious.



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    Re: Do chimps deserve the same basic rights as people?

    God no.
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    Re: Do chimps deserve the same basic rights as people?

    As soon as chimps are able to grasp the concept of 'rights', then they will be ready to have rights of their own. Until then it is only tossed about by humans who really haven't grasped the concept all that well either.

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    Re: Do chimps deserve the same basic rights as people?

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    More seriously, however, no. They do not.

    This isn't to say that one should be cruel to them. However, the idea that they are deserving of "human rights" is simply absurd.
    At the same time, when you teach them sign language they can communicate with us. They also have an ego and can think of the self in abstract terms. I don't know enough to say that they should have human rights, but they're eerily enough like us that I don't think the question is absurd.

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    Re: Do chimps deserve the same basic rights as people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    As soon as chimps are able to grasp the concept of 'rights', then they will be ready to have rights of their own. Until then it is only tossed about by humans who really haven't grasped the concept all that well either.
    Serious question: at what age are humans capable of grasping the concept of rights?

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    Re: Do chimps deserve the same basic rights as people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    At the same time, when you teach them sign language they can communicate with us. They also have an ego and can think of the self in abstract terms. I don't know enough to say that they should have human rights, but they're eerily enough like us that I don't think the question is absurd.
    So you think it necessary for a chimp to have freedom of speech? Perhaps the religious exercise of chimps needs to be protected in some way? Is the Chimp Free Press in danger of being shut down? Maybe the right to bear arms? I am a little confused as to which rights you think might be necessary for a chimp to survive as a chimp.

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    Re: Do chimps deserve the same basic rights as people?

    Quote Originally Posted by recalcitrant View Post
    Chimpanzees' rights case argued at New York appeals court hearing - CBS News

    Every chimp should go to school and vote in elections and get food stamps and own a gun and be read their miranda rights when being put under arrest



    Yeah well I AM! Steven Wise isn't going far enough!

    Knowing the republicans though they'll make polling times difficult to dolphins and make dolphins wait in line for like 12 hours and suggest dolphins to get voter ID that they just can't get for some reason.

    Are we ready though for all the illegal alien dolphins from mexico swimming up to our coasts?
    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    At the same time, when you teach them sign language they can communicate with us. They also have an ego and can think of the self in abstract terms. I don't know enough to say that they should have human rights, but they're eerily enough like us that I don't think the question is absurd.
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    Re: Do chimps deserve the same basic rights as people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Serious question: at what age are humans capable of grasping the concept of rights?
    I'm not sure. But it is not the age of a human that determines rights but that they are human. Human nature require rights. Rational animals live by rational thought. Rights are those things that separate the rational from the irrational; that allow man to live by reason and not be ruled by brut force.

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