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Thread: Chimpanzees' rights case argued at New York appeals court hearing

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    Re: Do chimps deserve the same basic rights as people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Every living thing has rights to the degree they are able to protect those rights.* Every living thing deserves some basic rights that should only be violated for very good reasons in my opinion.

    *Where do lions sleep? Anywhere they want to.
    Chimps have the mental capacity of a 3-5 year old hence they should recieve the rights a 3 or 5 year old receive.

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    Re: Do chimps deserve the same basic rights as people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Chimps have the mental capacity of a 3-5 year old hence they should recieve the rights a 3 or 5 year old receive.
    Perhaps. I think I can accept that since we don't keep children in cages.

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    Re: Do chimps deserve the same basic rights as people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Perhaps. I think I can accept that since we don't keep children in cages.
    No we just put toddlers on "time out."

    I suppose here we're talking about research chimps?

    If anyone cares research chimps save millions of lives every year........ Would you rather we hold medical trials on human beings?

    Do I like to see Chimps (or any animals die) hell no I don't but if the purpose is to study diseases and other research that could help save humans - I can overlook my disgust...

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    Re: Do chimps deserve the same basic rights as people?

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    That would work only if

    a) through natural selection, the apes themselves selected for superior communication skills, or
    b) through artificial selection, we selected for them for superior communication skills.

    But through either of those, it would stand to reason that after a few thousand years of this their brains would undergo a dramatic evolution.
    Like us, chimps (as well as orangutans, dolphins, and elephants) pass on skills they learn to other members of their group. They even have a primitive culture. So its quite possible that they would pass on sign language to other members of their group, and subsequent generations would get better and better at it since it would be a learned skill.
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    Re: Do chimps deserve the same basic rights as people?

    Absolutely not. I am not giving up my trunk monkey!

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    Re: Do chimps deserve the same basic rights as people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dog View Post
    Absolutely not. I am not giving up my trunk monkey!


    There's an entire series of those.

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    Re: Do chimps deserve the same basic rights as people?

    The Planet of the Apes begins. LOL.
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    Re: Do chimps deserve the same basic rights as people?

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    The Planet of the Apes begins. LOL.
    when we befriend our robot overlords it could synergize with our monkey bretheren. We can point to the monkies as a reason why our A.I. overlords should bring us along for the ride instead of making us an exotic rare species for display and tests.
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    Re: Do chimps deserve the same basic rights as people?

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    when we befriend our robot overlords it could synergize with our monkey bretheren. We can point to the monkies as a reason why our A.I. overlords should bring us along for the ride instead of making us an exotic rare species for display and tests.
    Yea, I always thought they did look a bit robotic. And their music wasn't that much better either. LOL.

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    Re: Do chimps deserve the same basic rights as people?

    Chimpanzees?! Who do you think is sitting on the bench?

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