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    Re: 1st Ebola patient diagnosed in the US has died

    I think that in about 3-4 weeks we will see that significant progress is being made in Africa, will still take several months to stamp out this outbreak, but their is awareness now, and some infrastructure on the ground to start containing this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    No, being aware of information is never a bad thing. But prioritizing that information even though it is statistically irrelevant compared to much larger ongoing issues is silly and just feeds into the news frenzy du jour.

    If you find it so irrelevant, then don't worry about it. But I have a right to report News info and be wary of gov't slacking off, due to over confidence and arrogance. I mean look at how well they're handling that ME problem, real confidence builder. And I'm not screaming the sky is falling or posting untrue material, people can make their own minds up to either read or ignore it. You're not the sole source of prioritizing for everyone.
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    Re: 1st Ebola patient diagnosed in the US has died

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    Re: 1st Ebola patient diagnosed in the US has died

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    You first !

    Because all I see are CDC officials walking around wearing space suits while I'm being told to wash my hands.
    If you were talking about the ones cleaning the apartment, there's a good reason for that because I would assume if he's been sick there, his bodily secretions would be everywhere.

    But beyond that, Ebola is transmitted in a very particular way. There's a reason why in the 30 or 40 years of this disease's existence, there's never been a reported outbreak in any country outside of Africa. This isn't the flu; it doesn't transmit through droplets in the air.

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    Re: 1st Ebola patient diagnosed in the US has died

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
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    Just curious, we can make reference to other causes of death (specifically from diseases) as long as we sure to put it into context with Ebola yes?

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    Re: 1st Ebola patient diagnosed in the US has died

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Perhaps you have been paying attention, but you should know that the reason for kill ration of Ebola being as high as it has been has more to do with the society than it does with the actual disease. Also, There's been three cases so far that have been handled in the US, and 2 were cured. Sadly, I think Duncan was just too far along for the new drug to really do any good. In any event, that means the kill ratio in the US is 33%, not even 50%.

    Though the kill rate is lower, I wouldn't count on a number of 3 being completely accurate without a vaccine available.



    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    The virulence has been the issue as reported here since the outbreak. Locally, we have a lot of faith in our Disease Control proceedures after the SARS outbreak, and other regions have learned from us.

    However, even at this late juncture they do not fully understand exactly what they are dealing with. A Spanish nurses appears to have become infected simply by touching her face with a gloved hand.

    Ebola: Infected Spanish nursing aide touched face with glove - World - CBC News'

    Ebola outbreak: Here's what you need to know - Health - CBC News

    What is of deep concern about the Dallas patient is this : Duncan carried the deadly virus with him from his home in Liberia, though he showed no symptoms when he left for the United States. He arrived in Dallas Sept. 20 and fell ill several days later. His condition was downgraded during the weekend from serious to critical.


    That gestation period is rather long and very critical.

    Yea, I'd rather we err on the side of caution with something that has the potential to cause so much damage, economically and health wise. And the incubation period and uncertain transmittable nature are becoming more of a concern than just the treatability.
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    Re: 1st Ebola patient diagnosed in the US has died

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Not all unexpected. I heard yesterday he was downgraded to critical. What I'm more interested in at this point is just how many people will actually come down with Ebola from the 52 people that had some form of contact with him. That will ultimately decide just how big an issue Ebola will become.
    I think the fact that we here in the US could not help just one person with ebola is a big issue.

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    Re: 1st Ebola patient diagnosed in the US has died

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    If you find it so irrelevant, then don't worry about it. But I have a right to report News info and be wary of gov't slacking off, due to over confidence and arrogance. I mean look at how well they're handling that ME problem, real confidence builder. And I'm not screaming the sky is falling or posting untrue material, people can make their own minds up to either read or ignore it. You're not the sole source of prioritizing for everyone.
    Correction: I find it statistically irrelevant. As I said in another thread, all communicable diseases should be treated with concern. However, considering how ebola is transmitted and our resources vs. the medical resources of African countries currently plagued by Ebola, there's absolutely no reason to be bent out of shape about this disease unless you're in the habit of touching people who died from ebola and subsequently licking your hands. As news frenzies go, it's no less silly than freaking out because one teenager killed himself after playing Dungeons and Dragons.

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    Re: 1st Ebola patient diagnosed in the US has died

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Just curious, we can make reference to other causes of death (specifically from diseases) as long as we sure to put it into context with Ebola yes?
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    Re: 1st Ebola patient diagnosed in the US has died

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    I think the fact that we here in the US could not help just one person with ebola is a big issue.
    One person who was already too far gone when he went for help. We have a cure for Ebola, but it would of been pointless to use it on the guy, and would of only delayed it's roll out had they chosen to use it. We also don't know how healthy the man was to begin with, which is equally important to what treatment he could of received in the US.

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Though the kill rate is lower, I wouldn't count on a number of 3 being completely accurate without a vaccine available.
    You're right that 3 isn't enough for an accurate picture. But there have also examples in Africa where Hospitals record kill ratios at 25%, when the yocals decide to cooperate.

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