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    Re: 1st Ebola patient diagnosed in the US has died

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    And that is related to Ebola how, exactly?
    Hell, 30k+ died in car accidents last year but it didn't create a "War on Car Terrorism". Besides, there's a limit to gun and vehicle deaths, not so little potential with infectious diseases.
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    Re: 1st Ebola patient diagnosed in the US has died

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    And that is related to Ebola how, exactly?


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    Re: 1st Ebola patient diagnosed in the US has died

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    News from The Associated Press

    Not a good sign. So far though at least no others are showing signs of sickness.

    The one saving grace in this case is that the patient was well aware of his condition and was more persistent with the Hospital than others might be. Someone who has never been to Western Africa that contracts it from a strange will likely write it off as the flu until long after it has become virulent. The stoics who chug Dayquil and hop the train to work are the real danger.
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    Re: 1st Ebola patient diagnosed in the US has died

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Hell, 30k+ died in car accidents last year but it didn't create a "War on Car Terrorism". Besides, there's a limit to gun and vehicle deaths, not so little potential with infectious diseases.
    See the number of deaths from flu per year, which is far worse than ebola due to actually being airborne. 53,826 people died from influenza and pneumonia in 2010. (cdc)

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    Re: 1st Ebola patient diagnosed in the US has died

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    The thing with Ebola is that, it's not contagious when you don't have symptoms. So you can fly, kiss, have sex with a person who has it, and as long as their not symptomatic, you're fine. Best thing about Ebola is that when you are sick, you are VERY SICK. That means, you aren't leaving your house to get on an airplane and fly across the globe.

    Also, you could kiss someone with Ebola and still not catch it. Remember, it's bodily secretions... not merely bodily fluids.


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    Because all I see are CDC officials walking around wearing space suits while I'm being told to wash my hands.

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    Re: 1st Ebola patient diagnosed in the US has died

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    See the number of deaths from flu per year, which is far worse than ebola due to actually being airborne. 53,826 people died from influenza and pneumonia in 2010. (cdc)
    I already made a reference to more flu deaths in post #16.

    An estimated 36 million people have died from HIV/AIDS since the first cases were reported in 1981. The potential for long term spread and high kill ratios is there, regardless of how much you want to state death stats. I'm not advocating wearing masks, surgical gloves and hiding in your home, but being aware of information is never a bad thing.
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    Re: 1st Ebola patient diagnosed in the US has died

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I already made a reference to more flu deaths in post #16.

    An estimated 36 million people have died from HIV/AIDS since the first cases were reported in 1981. The potential for long term spread and high kill ratios is there, regardless of how much you want to state death stats. I'm not advocating wearing masks, surgical gloves and hiding in your home, but being aware of information is never a bad thing.
    No, being aware of information is never a bad thing. But prioritizing that information even though it is statistically irrelevant compared to much larger ongoing issues is silly and just feeds into the news frenzy du jour.

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    Re: 1st Ebola patient diagnosed in the US has died

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    1634 people died of heart disease the day Duncan died from ebola.
    At some random day in 1338 fewer people in Europe died of the black plague than died of malnutrition... I'm sure the half of Europe who would, within the subsequent four years, be dead from the plague took some comfort in that.
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    Re: 1st Ebola patient diagnosed in the US has died

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post

    News shows last night were reporting how much more deadly, the overall typical flu is because of the amount of people that contract and die from it each year. But most of them are all older and already in poor health, it doesn't have a 50-90% kill ratio and this Ebola pandemic hasn't run its course yet.
    Perhaps you have been paying attention, but you should know that the reason for kill ration of Ebola being as high as it has been has more to do with the society than it does with the actual disease. Also, There's been three cases so far that have been handled in the US, and 2 were cured. Sadly, I think Duncan was just too far along for the new drug to really do any good. In any event, that means the kill ratio in the US is 33%, not even 50%.

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    Re: 1st Ebola patient diagnosed in the US has died

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    The danger appears, from what I've read, is that they think this new outbreak may be more virulent than previous ones, hence the difficulty in containing it this time with previously similar and successfully used methods. It's not impossible that in close quarters this current strain isn't somewhat airborne from coughed up sputum particles or that it's more highly contagious upon surface contact.

    There's probably going to be more incidents in the coming months of people contracting the disease and traveling here with it. Hopefully, they catch them and quarantine anyone they contact while sick. That's the other thing they're questioning is how many obvious symptoms does someone have to display before they're actually becoming contagious?

    Also, three Ugandans are being monitored in medical isolation for possibly contracting the Ebola-like Marburg virus, after a hospital worker died. This seems to be the year of the virus.


    Three Ugandans in isolation after Ebola-like Marburg virus death
    The virulence has been the issue as reported here since the outbreak. Locally, we have a lot of faith in our Disease Control proceedures after the SARS outbreak, and other regions have learned from us.

    However, even at this late juncture they do not fully understand exactly what they are dealing with. A Spanish nurses appears to have become infected simply by touching her face with a gloved hand.

    Ebola: Infected Spanish nursing aide touched face with glove - World - CBC News'

    Ebola outbreak: Here's what you need to know - Health - CBC News

    What is of deep concern about the Dallas patient is this : Duncan carried the deadly virus with him from his home in Liberia, though he showed no symptoms when he left for the United States. He arrived in Dallas Sept. 20 and fell ill several days later. His condition was downgraded during the weekend from serious to critical.


    That gestation period is rather long and very critical.
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