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    Re: Seattle Changes Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoples’ Day

    Quote Originally Posted by WallStreetVixen View Post
    Columbus Day is a legal holiday. The states, as well as the cities, can determine whether or not they want to acknowledge Columbus Day on the second Monday of October, or Indigenous People's Day, Flying Saucer Day, Starbucks Coffee Day or Satanic Demon Day if they like.

    There are plenty of states in the Union that do not acknowledge Columbus Day. Why this Indigenous People's Day is such a surprise is beyond me.
    I do kind of like the idea of a Flying Saucer Day.

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    Re: Seattle Changes Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoples’ Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Not necessarily no.

    Many natives reached out to the Europeans (more so in NA rather than SA) only to be backstabbed. Whatever.
    Generally speaking, not really. Some tribes might have been open to trade at first. However, once it became clear that the Europeans were planning on staying permanently, things would often turn violent.

    Besides which, none of this changes the fact that any proposed "Indigenous Peoples Day" only acknowledges the native side of the equation while ignoring Europeans entirely.

    What the Hell kind of sense does that make?

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    And I'm sure the natives also ate too much candy before bedtime, which is utterly irrelevant to the Europeans' behavior when they came to the Americas.
    How does this justify pushing the historically and factually inaccurate idea that natives were peace loving innocents, while Europeans were all murderous barbarians?

    That's simply not how it happened.

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    Re: Seattle Changes Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoples’ Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Changed it. I like seeing you mad. Just accept it, Indigenous day, I think that's hilarious because it sounds like Seattle is spitting on Columbus' grave.
    Mad? What about any of my posts indicated that I was mad? Indeed, do any of my posts indicate that I'm even against the idea of changing Columbus Day? (hint...if it was up to me i'd get rid of ALL federal and state and local holidays since everyone wants to have a cow that they don't have their own personal holiday)

    Amused by this maybe. But not mad.
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    Re: Seattle Changes Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoples’ Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Screw Columbus. He was an asshole that deserves no recognition. He sailed a boat and landed in a new land. Big ****ing deal. The natives would have prospered and continued their progression into modern times just nicely without Whitey...
    While I agree that Columbus was a total douche, I am pretty sure these natives have not progressed into modern times yet:

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    Re: Seattle Changes Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoples’ Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Oh, stop it. The guy was literally responsible for the enslavement and deaths of millions of people.
    Oh please do tell how he was personally responsible for the enslavement and deaths of millions of people....
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    Re: Seattle Changes Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoples’ Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Generally speaking, not really. Some tribes might have been open to trade at first. However, once it became clear that the Europeans were planning on staying permanently, things would often turn violent.

    Besides which, none of this changes the fact that any proposed "Indigenous Peoples Day" only acknowledges the native side of the equation while ignoring Europeans entirely.

    What the Hell kind of sense does that make?



    How does this justify pushing the historically and factually inaccurate idea that natives were peace loving innocents, while Europeans were all murderous barbarians?

    That's simply not how it happened.
    No one is pushing that.

    See my respons eto Kalstang.

    Don't give a **** what the natives did to themselves for centuries, nothing justifies the millions killed by the Europeans.

    I'm European and Native American by the way, do not make false dichotomies when it comes to the relationship of the Europeans and Natives (at times). The European backstab was horrid, accept that, it is not factually inaccurate in any way.
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    Re: Seattle Changes Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoples’ Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Generally speaking, not really. Some tribes might have been open to trade at first. However, once it became clear that the Europeans were planning on staying permanently, things would often turn violent.

    Besides which, none of this changes the fact that any proposed "Indigenous Peoples Day" only acknowledges the native side of the equation while ignoring Europeans entirely.
    Practically every other holiday is a European holiday. What difference does it make that Seattle decided to give Native Americans one day? Did you personally ever celebrate Columbus Day anyway? I mean hell it ain't like they renamed Independence Day or Easter.
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    Re: Seattle Changes Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoples’ Day

    Quote Originally Posted by WallStreetVixen View Post
    South Dakota changed Columbus Day to Native American Day 20 years ago.

    I'm sure no one really cares about that...
    If it weren't for carving some giant heads into a mountain, is there anything in that state anyone would care about?
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    Re: Seattle Changes Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoples’ Day

    Years ago the State of Washington removed Columbus day as a state holiday and replaced it with the day after Thanksgiving, thereby giving everybody a four day weekend. Incredibly intelligent move. Now we can say we removed Indigenous Peoples' Day as a state holiday. Who cares?
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    Re: Seattle Changes Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoples’ Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Why one group of people also having rocky history means we should celebrate the Hitler of the 1400's who was such a moron that he declared the "new world has been discovered!" despite there already being millions of humans in the Americas...
    Yeah man, that, like, reminds me of those idiots who, like, claimed to have discovered King Tut's tomb, as if, like, nobody had ever been there before and there wasn't, like, a freaking dead guy in there PROVING that people had been there before.

    Morons.

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