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    Re: Seattle Changes Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoplesí Day

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    and neither do many past leaders we honor.

    Using present day "values" is a poor way to evaluate a persons accomplishments. One should look at historical contexts.
    Even in the context of his own day, Columbus was a bastard.
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    Re: Seattle Changes Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoplesí Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Apparently they did *shrug*
    Nope. They can add to it. But they can't change it. They can claim they changed it all that they want also. But I'll bet you that come Columbus Day banks will close because its Columbus Day...not "Indigenous Day".
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    Re: Seattle Changes Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoplesí Day

    Christopher Columbus, the man credited with discovering the Americas, was a greedy and vindictive tyrant who saved some of his most violent punishments for his own followers, according to a document uncovered by Spanish historians.As governor and viceroy of the Indies, Columbus imposed iron discipline on the first Spanish colony in the Americas, in what is now the Caribbean country of Dominican Republic. Punishments included cutting off people's ears and noses, parading women naked through the streets and selling them into slavery.
    "Columbus' government was characterised by a form of tyranny," Consuelo Varela, a Spanish historian who has seen the document, told journalists.
    Lost document reveals Columbus as tyrant of the Caribbean | World news | The Guardian

    But even as a tyrant he was ultimately a failure:
    "The monarchs wanted someone who did not give them problems. Columbus did not solve problems, he created them."

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    Re: Seattle Changes Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoplesí Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Why one group of people also having rocky history means we should celebrate the Hitler of the 1400's who was such a moron that he declared the "new world has been discovered!" despite there already being millions of humans in the Americas...
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    Re: Seattle Changes Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoplesí Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    Even in the context of his own day, Columbus was a bastard.
    True, actually. While values do change through the ages, his rule as governor was regarded with revulsion.

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    Re: Seattle Changes Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoplesí Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    GODWIN FTW! Hitler of the 1400's
    Oh, stop it. The guy was literally responsible for the enslavement and deaths of millions of people.

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    Re: Seattle Changes Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoplesí Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Nope. They can add to it. But they can't change it. They can claim they changed it all that they want also. But I'll bet you that come Columbus Day banks will close because its Columbus Day...not "Indigenous Day".
    Changed it. I like seeing you mad. Just accept it, Indigenous day, I think that's hilarious because it sounds like Seattle is spitting on Columbus' grave.
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    Re: Seattle Changes Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoplesí Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    So, Native Americans are "opposite" of you, now?
    Europeans and native peoples were on "opposite" sides when the historical colonization of the Americas took place, were they not?

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    Re: Seattle Changes Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoplesí Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Oh, stop it. The guy was literally responsible for the enslavement and deaths of millions of people.
    Next time just say he was the Pol Pot or Idi Amin of the 1400's... no Godwin counter argument crap.
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    Re: Seattle Changes Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoplesí Day

    Good. Columbus was a murderous, scumbag. Nothing like committing genocide, enslaving people, and looting what they own. No reason why we should celebrate this scum.


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