Lmao, what a nonsensical argument. Mayan culture is still existent. So is Huichol culture. So is Iroquois culture. They didn't cease to exist. Have you ever taken a history class?
Originally Posted by Gathomas88
Good grief, third time I have to explain this to you: Something happening for which a segment of society wouldn't be here today is not enough of a reason to celebrate it. Are you following this yet? Or do I have to make it clearer.
How on Earth do you figure, dude?
Again, without European colonization, NONE OF US WOULD BE HERE TODAY
to even be talking about this in the first place.
You owe literally everything
in your cushy, democratic, first-world North American life to the fact of European colonization of the Americas and it's impacts.
Lmao, neither were any of those examples I posted. Something positive can be linked to all of them if one makes enough of a superficial effort. However, the point is that those positives don't make them worthy of celebration. Are you being purposely obtuse too?
European colonization of the Americas was not purely negative.
Great, let Europeans celebrate it. You however aren't an European and literally have nothing to do with the discovery itself. While you're at it, quit trying to connect yourself to it and the complaining when others do the same.
For Europeans, it was a world-changing, positive event. Hell! It was even a positive event for the natives who were smart enough to assimilate.
Lmao, what nonsense. "European culture"? Which part? We haven't been colonies for over 200 years. We established republics while they were still trying to deal with monarchies. We were industrializing when most of Europe still lived in shacks. What part of our culture is European? North America and Europe have been distinct cultures for well over a few hundred years now. Get over it.
The culture of the modern Western Hemisphere finds it points of origin in the European colonists who settled here. As such, it's culture is overwhelmingly "European" in general character.
You may, we as a country don't. Don't be purposely obtuse. It'll add to your already weak arguments about "But it happened in history!"
Who the Hell says we don't?
Lmao, you're being silly now. The Reconquista ended the same exact year Columbus reached the Americas. Why isn't that celebrated along with Columbus' non-discovery? Now, whether you want to celebrate it in an attempt to sound like you've made a case, it's fine. However, it's the last stance of a see through position that has been refuted on various grounds.
Personally, I think the Roman Empire was a great
thing. A lot of people agree. That's why it's constantly glorified in media and in history books.
Being Catholic, I also celebrate Constantine's conversion to Christianity, as well as the Crusades.
As to why they're not "officially" celebrated by the US government, they are simply too far removed from the history of the United States to be terribly relevant. That is not the case where Columbus' discovery of the New World is concerned.
Anyone with even a lick of common sense can see it.
The rest of your post is simply rehashing the same tired old spastic points you've repeated time and again. It will be ignored as such.
Reasons to celebrate it, their refutations, and the questions you've been unable to answer:
1. Get over it.
A) Ummm... get over the fact it happened? Irrelevant to the question of whether it should be celebrated.
2. It happened in history and it's important!
So are a multitude of other events that don't get celebrated. Why is this one so special.
3. He discovered the Americas!
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4. The stuff that happened after he arrived was positive!
Yes, let's ignore the fact that millions of humans already inhabited this land later to be called the Americas, having discovered it millennia before. And let's ignore that whole Leif Ericson voyage to Greenland and modern-day Canada around 1000 C.M.E. If Columbus discovered America, he himself didn't know. Until his death he claimed to have landed in Asia, even though most navigators knew he didn't. [Top 10 Intrepid Explorers]
Um... yes... positive stuff does happen and it should be examined on its own merits. Columbus' arrival set in motion colonization and enslavement. That Henry Ford would later create the F1 has nothing to do with that.
5. Europeans are here!
And... what? So are Germans. Should we celebrate Hitler's invasion of Poland? Without it, WWII would have never happened and the decision to create a state for Jews wouldn't have either! See how simplistic the line of reason you're using is?