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    Re: Seattle Changes Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoplesí Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Ugh. Typical.

    Sure, Columbus was a bad person. Sure, he probably doesn't deserve to have a holiday named after him.

    Replacing it with some gag-worthy P.C. garbage like "Indigenous Peoples Day," however? That's just idiotic.

    Replace it with "Discovery Day" or something else along those lines, and give indigenous peoples their own holiday. The only thing the city has accomplished with this particular farce is to substitute one poorly thought out ethnocentric holiday for another on the opposite end of the spectrum.
    Why is it wrong to celebrate people who suffered everything from enslavement to genocide? May 8th is Holocaust Remembrance Day. We celebrate holidays which have nothing to do with attacks on indigenous people: St. Patricks, Cinco de Mayo. We also celebrate cultures. We have African-American Month. Reagan celebrated German-American day and even signed it into law. Why are some non-racist white people so against a debate in which Americans discuss holidays remembering important parts of history? They just stand against it like it's something negative.
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    Re: Seattle Changes Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoplesí Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Yea, I saw that one a while ago.

    It sounds like a fine idea to me. I certainly wouldn't oppose it.

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    Re: Seattle Changes Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoplesí Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    I agree with you on that. The guy was basically a common thug drunk on power, who tried to run the land he had been given like his own personal "Heart of Darkness."

    I have absolutely no problem with renaming the holiday for that exact reason.

    Again, I'd simply prefer that it be changed to something more along the lines of "Discovery Day," with indigenous peoples being given their own holiday, than having the European element thrown out entirely in favor of the natives.
    So you don't object to renaming Columbus day to something else and you don't object to giving the indigenous people a holiday we can honor them with. You just don't like the elegance of doing both on the same day... because it somehow seems to be "politically correct" and that can't be cool?
    WOW...
    I think Seattle got this one just right.
    I think you are too concerned with correcting political correctness.

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    Re: Seattle Changes Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoplesí Day

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    Seattle Changes Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoples' Day - TIME

    gee, I wonder who's running things in Seattle? Where's my thinkin' cap?

    I believe we can celebrate "Columbus Day" as the day when "America" first became possible-even if by coincidence. Columbus notwithstanding, even if he is the name attached to the day.

    and I can imagine the speeches: Today, on indigenous people's day, we celebrate surrender, being tricked, and discovering that our stone age way of life could not exist when confronted with Renaissance/Modern peoples?
    You know that your avatar depicts a tyrannical theocrat, right? I'm pretty sure that based on your OP, you and I would have massively different opinions about Justinian I.

    (And yes, this does relate to the topic at hand.)
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    Re: Seattle Changes Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoplesí Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Why is it wrong to celebrate people who suffered everything from enslavement to genocide? May 8th is Holocaust Remembrance Day. We celebrate holidays which have nothing to do with attacks on indigenous people: St. Patricks, Cinco de Mayo. We also celebrate cultures. We have African-American Month. Reagan celebrated German-American day and even signed it into law. Why are some non-racist white people so against a debate in which Americans discuss holidays remembering important parts of history? They just stand against it like it's something negative.
    Give the natives their own holiday then.

    The implication of replacing a holiday honoring the European discovery of the Americas with a holiday only honoring native peoples is that the European discovery of the Americas was a mistake, and that we shouldn't be here.

    I don't know about you, but I, for one, find that to be insulting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    So you don't object to renaming Columbus day to something else and you don't object to giving the indigenous people a holiday we can honor them with. You just don't like the elegance of doing both on the same day... because it somehow seems to be "politically correct" and that can't be cool?
    WOW...
    I think Seattle got this one just right.
    I think you are too concerned with correcting political correctness.
    I fail to see how "Indigenous Peoples Day" can be said to "do both on the same day." The name alone only honors native peoples, while ignoring the descendants of European colonists entirely.

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    Re: Seattle Changes Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoplesí Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Give the natives their own holiday then.

    The implication of replacing a holiday honoring the European discovery of the Americas with a holiday only honoring native peoples is that the European discovery of the Americas was a mistake, and that we shouldn't be here.

    I don't know about you, but I, for one, find that to be insulting.



    I fail to see how "Indigenous Peoples Day" can be said to "do both on the same day." The name alone only honors native peoples, while ignoring the descendants of European colonists entirely.
    We have a day honoring European colonists ...
    It's called Independence day.

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    Re: Seattle Changes Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoplesí Day

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    Seattle Changes Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoples' Day - TIME

    gee, I wonder who's running things in Seattle? Where's my thinkin' cap?

    I believe we can celebrate "Columbus Day" as the day when "America" first became possible-even if by coincidence. Columbus notwithstanding, even if he is the name attached to the day.

    and I can imagine the speeches: Today, on indigenous people's day, we celebrate surrender, being tricked, and discovering that our stone age way of life could not exist when confronted with Renaissance/Modern peoples?
    That is one of the dumbest PC ideas I have ever heard.....

    Do the progressives realized that the "settlers" settled on the Atlantic and not the Pacific?

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    Re: Seattle Changes Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoplesí Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    We have a day honoring European colonists ...
    It's called Independence day.
    No, that's a day honoring the secession of the Thirteen Colonies from Great Britain, which would eventually lead to formation of the United States of America.

    It took place several hundred years after Europeans had already colonized the Americas.

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    Re: Seattle Changes Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoplesí Day

    Revisionist history to fit a political agenda ..... it's more fun to watch than a circus.
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    Re: Seattle Changes Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoplesí Day

    Far as I am concerned, Columbus Day they might as well do away with it. The only people who have off are the banks and government workers. Columbus Day is pretty much like every other day except for that. There are no more parades or anything like there use to be.

    But if it was done away with, you could have your Columbus Day sales.
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